Adult Site Broker Talk Episode 169 with Filmmaker and Performer Axel Abysse

Adult Site Broker Talk Episode 169 with Filmmaker and Performer Axel Abysse

Bruce, the adult site broker, host of Adult Site Broker Talk and CEO of Adult Site Broker, the leading adult website broker, who is known as the company to sell adult sites, is pleased to welcome Filmmaker and Pornstar Axel Abysse as this week’s guest on Adult Site Broker Talk.

Axel Abysse is a French filmmaker and performer based in Tokyo, Japan.

Born in the southern French countryside, Axel was an introverted and unconfident kid who dwelled on his dreams and gave shape to his fantasies through writing or drawing on sketchbooks.

His artistic interests soon led him to porn, as his body grew, and he manifested his first sexual desires.

While studying art and focusing on cinematography in Paris, Axel took had his first fisting at the age of 18. Needless to say, he never went back.

After relocating to Japan, he explored photography, also becoming a model. Surprised, yet aroused by the warm reaction of hundreds of admirers on the Internet, he decided to share what he called “his curse” with the world. Axel Abysse was born.

Embracing exhibitionism as an excuse to practice his self-taught filmmaking skills, Axel uploaded a video to Xtube in 2014. This was the first of a long series of somewhat experimental and pornographic pieces in which the performer explored the art of fisting, alone or with partners from all over the world.

His work got more attention over the months, and he was invited by renowned studios to perform in the USA with big names of the industry, such as Brian Bonds or Amerifist.

In 2017, Axel decided to fully embrace both his creative and sexual passions and the curse became a blessing, with his site

Since then, he’s been traveling the world, performing on stage at some of the biggest fetish events, and done films with porn legends and new talents, receiving praise and awards for his work along the way.

You can follow him on Twitter @theaxelabysse

Bruce, host of the show and CEO of Adult Site Broker said: “This was one of the most interesting interviews I’ve done. Axel is at the top of his game in the gay fetish space. You’ll learn about his views and a lot about fisting.”

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Bruce F., host of the show and CEO of Adult Site Broker said:

“This was one of the most interesting interviews I’ve done. Axel is at the top of his game in the gay fetish space. You’ll learn about his views and a lot about fisting.”


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The main marketing is TikTok with some Instagram sprinkled in, which leaves amazing opportunities using other media and buying ads, only $13.5 million. Now time for this week’s interview. My guest today on AdultSight Broker Talk is porn star Axel Abyss. Axel, thanks for being with us today on AdultSight Broker Talk. Thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure. Now Axel is a French filmmaker and performer based in Tokyo, Japan. Just in the neighborhood here, born in the Southern French countryside, Axel was an introverted and uncomfortant kid who dwelled on his dreams and gave shape to his fantasies through writing or drawing on sketchbooks. His artistic interest soon led him to porn, as his body grew and he manifested his first sexual desires. While studying art and focusing on cinematography in Paris, Axel had his first fisting at the age of 18. Needless to say, he never went back. After relocating to Japan, he explored photography, also becoming a model. Surprised yet aroused by the warm reaction of hundreds of admirers on the internet, he decided to share what he called his "curse with the world." Axel Abyss was born. Creating exhibitionism as an excuse to practice, his self-taught filmmaking skills, Axel uploaded a video to XTube in 2014. This is the first of a long series of somewhat experimental and pornographic pieces in which the performer explored the art of fisting alone or with partners from around the world. His work got more attention over the months and he was invited by renowned studios to perform in the USA with big names of the industry such as Brian Bonds or a Marifist. In 2017, Axel decided to fully embrace both his creative and sexual passions and the curse becomes a blessing with his site, Axel Since then, he’s been traveling the world performing on stage at some of the biggest fetish events and unfilms with port and legends and new talents receiving praise and awards for his work along the way. So Axel, tell us about your productions. Okay. So basically, it’s all about fisting. Fisting is my lifestyle and now I’m doing this in my production as both a producer and film-like filmmaker. Most of the time I’m sorry in front of the camera and sometimes I’m behind the camera as well. Fisting for me is like, it’s everything. Once you’ve tried it, there’s no way back. So that’s what my films are about showing how good it is, how good it feels and I basically want to share with the world my passion for it. How did you first discover fisting? Fishing porn, I was probably way too young but I found my first fisting porn when I was 14 years old, which was disgusting to me. I was like, what the fuck is this? Why are they doing this to the body? And it was very ritual, old school porn, two daddies in leather, the stereotypical 70s 80s porn, which is really hard to me. But at the time I was like, not ready for this. But after watching this, it stayed in the back of my head and I kept thinking about it and got kind of obsessed with it. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah, at the same time I was learning about my body, exploring this and that and once I found my prostate inside my hole, that changed everything. So yeah, that’s how it began. How did you get into porn production in the first place? I actually never intended to be in that industry. What happened is I am an exhibitionist so I started posting stuff online like on Tumblr, Western Peace and X-Tube, Western Peace as well. It’s all gone but at the time it was a free platform, it was just for me to show off my skills. And I was doing this for free, it was just for fun. It went really popular very quickly way beyond any expectation for me. It was really unexpected. I was doing this for me first. And then yeah, thousands, tens of thousands of people liking my videos, sharing it and then it became very big. And that’s when Club Inferno, the feasting studio from Falcon in the US contacted me and were like, do you want to film with us? My good friend Tim Valenti from Falcon. So yeah, they called me at first I was like, this is not what I planned, I was, I never intended to be a porn actor. But I was like, sure, why not? Let’s try it once. And I flew to Vegas from Tokyo, I went there and I just loved the experience. A few months after they released the movie and it became a big hit, they actually called it the Abyss. So I guess they knew that I would be appealing to some people, I guess. Yeah, big hit and I started, I kept going with my, my own home made videos for free on X-Tube until 2017 when I met Berk Angel, a transpore actor. And he came to Tokyo to visit and he was like, your videos are really good but you have to, you have to stop doing this for free. Well, you know, for me was really a passion, it was a hobby and I was like, I didn’t think I could make a living over it and introduced me to his team. So the people asked Z-Box and that’s how it started. They kind of helped me putting a site together and yeah, it went very fast and the website since 2017 has been very successful and I feel very blessed to have this, this thing going on for me. Indeed, you know, you’re in really good hands with Danny over at Z-Box, they’re fantastic. They are. Yeah, indeed. What do you feel makes a good fisting scene? So that’s the thing, like because I’ve seen now how it works with big studios, I kind of go the other route where I want to have something very authentic and very real, almost like documentary. So as much as I can, I try to, on set, I try to capture emotions and I try not to script anything which makes, I guess, the reaction real, like more real. I always tell my cameraman to focus on faces because when someone is getting fisted, usually they will have these face expressions that tells a lot about what they’re feeling. The morning, the eyes, rolling in the back, all that is for me what makes it very authentic. You can’t really fake that. Or you could, but I think people can tell when it’s real, always not. So yeah, like my, my prediction is very much about that. The intensity of it, of course, it’s an extreme practice and for me, it’s important to show how it takes time to get inside someone, how it takes intimacy and trust into the person who’s basically entering your inside. So it’s very much about the connection between two or more performers. That’s what really matters for me. And that’s what, for me, makes the good fisting scene. Of course, people are going to want deep fisting, double fisting, extreme punching. And I’m very much into it. But the authenticity has to be the main point for me. How much of your filmmaking studies comes into that? So I studied movies in Paris, but it was very much theory more than practice. So I didn’t learn how to make a movie per se. So I had to teach myself. So I’m self-taught. And my video was at first where a way to explore how to, how to film, how to set up a lighting, how to play with sound. And then the editing. I feel this day, the editing is actually my favorite part. Really? Yeah. And I know it’s kind of rare. Like everybody’s like, oh, I hate the editing part. To my least favorite part, that’s right. I have an editor here now. It’s, I don’t know. I feel like how shitty can, I mean, you know, sometimes the everything can go wrong on set. And yet, I feel like I can save it with the editing. I feel like I have the power to, I don’t know, fix it or make it better or transform the mood, transform whatever happened. Whether it’s better good, I feel like I have the power to, to transform into my films into anything. I guess what I studied is, I mean, I, I, I’m very much into indie movies. So I’m not trying to look like a Marvel movie, like with many visual effects or whatever. But what I want is a nice mood, a beautiful color palette. I want a nice lighting. And again, emotions. So that’s why I try to do with, with mainly my editing skills. Very good. So you’re a performer, director and producer. So how are you able to pull all of that off while you’re on the set? That’s, that’s tricky actually. Sometimes I get very much in my head and I have to cool down for a minute because thinking of too much at the same time. That’s why I, as a producer, I’m going to pick the models. Usually I pick models who I am into. So it just makes things easier. Sure. And hopefully they are into me or into the other model that I picked for them. Right. So I, I won’t never put like two models, we, we don’t know each other or were not attracted to each other together. For me, it’s really important to always pick and I’m into prepare and tell like, are you, do you know this guy? Do you want to film with this guy or this person? And building like, what are you into, what, what is into and build the, the scene like this with the offences with the experience as well. Because fisting is also, it requires skill and experience. If you are a beginner, it’s going to show. And sometimes it’s okay. But if you want a good fisting scene, you need to have someone who knows what he’s doing where there is the bottom or the top. Right. And that’s when I’m on set, I already know what about what we’re going to do most likely, even though there are a lot of improvisation. And it’s important for me to pick a filmmaker that I’m going to work with. So I pick like one, usually it’s only one cameraman, me and the other model. And if, if I’m not a model on that scene, I will be the camera myself. So I like very small team to keep it very intimate. And yeah, like I said, there’s no script. So usually we go with the flow. The camera keeps rolling. Again, I love my editing. So I prefer to have too much footage than not enough. And so I always tell the cameraman that works with me to just keep rolling even when people are still like getting dressed up or undressed or I like to have b-rolls. So like the break where we’re drinking a glass of water or red bull, whatever I want it, I might use it. I might not use it. But I like to have everything. Yeah. Oh, that’s fun stuff. That takes her fun. Yeah. They can be very fun. And it’s something that for the viewer, that kind of gives them a taste of what’s happening. Absolutely. You get a taste of that and you also get a taste of the personality of the models a little bit more. Because once we’re rolling, it’s very easy for a performer to become a character. I’m not that much into that. I don’t want you to pretend to be a plumber or anything. I just want you to be you. And for that, yeah, the b-rolls are great. Authentics always better, don’t you think? I think so. That’s what I’m into. And the point that I want to make is the point that I want to watch. I agree. I agree with that for every type of entertainment. I think people should be themselves. So if you had to choose, would you rather pick being a performer, director or producer and why? I love being a performer. And in the last few years, I’ve been performing on stage as well, which is a lot of fun. But I’m a person with a lot of anxiety. So I get really stressed before. And sometimes I like, is it worth it going through so much stress for just like 15 minutes on stage? But feasting is part of my lifestyle. So even when I’m not filming, I’m feasting like every week. I have partners in private. So yeah, even if I was not a performer anymore, feasting was still be here. So maybe in the future, I don’t know. I could become mostly a director or producer. But for my movies, I feel very, I feel the need to be involved. So when I’m just, it happens a few times before I as a producer, I would pick a different filmmaker in Europe. For example, during COVID, I did that. I was stuck in Japan, so I would contact people in Europe, people that I’ve worked with before. Can you film that kind of thing for me? So I would produce. I would get the models together, the plays, the filmmaker, and they would make that scene without me there. And that was a fun process. But I feel, and then I was, of course, I was editing it because I need to be in control for that. But I like to be there. I like to have this connection with my models, even if I’m not in front of the camera. I like to also make them at ease, make them feel better, talk about my own experience. When they, sometimes I will, I’m going to film guys who don’t have that much experience in board. So I’m going to talk about my experience and how shy I was and how introverted I used to be. It’s like a like create this cocoon on set that I love. And so I love being a performer. I don’t know if I will be a performer forever. I’m already 36 years old. You know how it is important. Sometimes you get too old. And also sometimes, I mean, this year for me has been rough. I lost my dad recently. And so, you know, I mean, life happens. And so sometimes you’re just not in the mood. And as a performer, it’s putting a mask on is not always the bad thing to do. Sometimes you just need to step back and take some time for you. Preve a little bit, yeah. Yeah, that’s what I’m doing at the moment. So I’m still filming, but I’m making sure that I film with some people that I know very well that I trust. And yeah, and as a filmmaker, I’m exploring. I’m looking for new talents at the moment. And yeah, I hope to develop that a little bit on my website. That’s a good, always, always a good idea to have a lot of people. So if you do decide to ultimately step back, then you’ll have other people who are already popular. So that’s a good thing. So how do you ensure the consent and comfort of all the participants and your scenes? Well, like I said, I always have a conversation with the guys or the people that I’m going to film with beforehand. Not just on the day of the shoot, but before. Like, what are you into? What would you like to do? And of course, on the day, they’re going to sign an agreement before we film. But there’s always this conversation and it’s very, very important for me to know what they are into because I do fetish stuff, mostly feasting, but I also explore sounding, on the age, what are sports stuff like that, and not everybody can be into all of that at once. So that conversation is always important. I never forced a model to do something that they’ve never done before if they don’t want to. And by water sports, we’re not talking about water skiing, of course. No. But yeah, it’s always, it’s also turned on for me to know what they want to do, what they are into. And I think that’s the magic of what I do is like, I’m showing their fantasies. I’m developing their fantasies and I all mine and we elaborate together on something that that both turn us on. And of course, when filming, like I said, we always have the camera rolling. Yeah, I was thinking about that. That’s an excellent idea. I know people who have a still camera, wide lens at the back of their studio and just have it continually rolling so they have that too. And of course, my models are aware of this. So they know that camera is rolling, but whenever they need a break, we take a break. And if they want to like fully stop, we start. The conversation is always going on. Even if the camera is on, I tell them, like if you need a break, you can say, out loud, take a break. I’m going to be in the editing. I’m going to be cutting that part if it needs to be. Of course. That’s something else that comes to mind. I did a 150th episode with Leon Young who testified against Ron Jeremy to the Grand Jury came all the way from the UK to do so and was very outspoken about him and about the things that he did. He allegedly raped her to party in front of a bunch of people. Do you think there’s a lot of that in gay porn as well? There is. I’ve heard stories. I’ve never witnessed it myself, but I know of some people that I’ve followed before on social media and then stories come out and unfortunately, yes, it happens. And that’s also something that I always mention to beginners that I might film with. And you need to know that you are in control of everything and if you don’t want to do something, just tell me. And if what I’m saying is not what you felt was going to happen or if I’m doing something wrong, you just stop me there. And it’s okay. Especially in extreme practice, but not even in any kind of practice. There’s no shame in not wanting to do something. There’s all kinds of practices and there’s all kinds of fantasies and fetishes and everybody can be turned on by something. Doesn’t mean that is going to be a turn on for everyone else. So communication is key. 100% and you hope they’re doing that with other producers as well. So your films are focused on fist fucking as you talked about and you did mention you do a few other things. But do you ever feel kind of limited by that niche? Yes and no. Sometimes if I start to compare myself to other models or other productions in terms of numbers, for example, just on social media. I’m not talking about money or anything, but just like social media’s exposure. Of course mainstream fucking it’s going to get bigger numbers than fisting. And sometimes like, "Damn, I wish I could reach that kind of exposure." That’s all. But other than that, no, because I just love what I do and it’s very important for me to keep true to myself. I don’t want to start doing any kind of movie because someone asked me to do it. I mean I get messages all the time. Can you do that kind of videos and like, "Well, at the moment I’m not into this." This is like all kind of practices like, especially in the finished world, there are so many things. And I’m not into everything and that’s okay. So no, I don’t feel limited. I think fisting is a very beautiful thing. Every time, every session is as some sparkle going on and yeah, I’m always inspired and excited to do it. So I don’t really feel limited. Okay. So your French and your based in Tokyo, how do you like living there? I love being in Tokyo. I moved here, I think, 12 years ago. But that had nothing to do with my own career that I have now because when I came here, I was not doing that at all. It can be tricky sometimes because Japan and the British and to sex work is very odd. How so? Well, so if you ever watched Japanese porn? Yeah. Well, that’s odd. Yes, we’ll be, yeah, I would just stuff blurred out. Yes, I get it. The mosaic. The mosaic is mandatory. Right. We’re in funny because the one time I was in Japan, I was in a magazine stand and I took out, I think it was hustler or something. And the girls’ private parts were wire brushed out. I was sitting there thinking, "God, there’s actually some guy who sits there with a wire brush." I had a friend who had like a gig for some time. She was just pretty mosaic on point. That was a joke. She was a bit tired of it. That’s a silliest thing, I think. I don’t know. It’s like, "Well, we all know what’s there." Exactly. It’s funny. I met that one guy one day who was actually turned on by modeks. Which I mean, I understand his point of view. He was saying that... He leaves something to the imagination. Exactly. Yeah, I get it. And so he likes that part. But for me, like, no, I can’t do that. So that’s why I am still in Japan, but my production is worldwide. I travel a lot. My website is hosted in the US. So you don’t market it all to Japan with mosaics? No. I don’t. Makes sense. I collaborate with Japanese filmmakers. So sometimes we’re going to split the scene. I mean, we’re going to share the scene and they would put mosaics on their platform. They would put mosaics on their platform. And I’m fine with that. But they don’t see myself putting mosaics on my films. So how is working in Japan different from working in Europe or the US? I think it’s because of my niche. And it is kind of difficult for me to find guys who are fine with showing their face, getting fisted with experience. All that is very rare. So you have a few great performers here, but they are hard to find. And Japan is an island. It’s expensive to travel anywhere. Just stuck here for two years and a half during the pandemic. So that’s the bad part about it. But again, I love being here because I don’t know. It’s just very safe for queer people, for example. I mean, my husband is a drag queen. And we both from France, I would never let my husband in drag in the street of Paris. At night, I would be terrified. He took you anytime, wherever, anywhere, anytime. There’s no risk. There’s no chance that we get arrested or anything. And so that feeling of safety is like, it’s gold. So in Paris, you actually might get arrested for that? Not arrested. You get harassed. Horased, I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I think it’s arrested. I actually got beat up many years ago when I was living in Paris. I was living in a gay club. So I don’t miss that part. Being from San Francisco, it’s hard to fathom, but I do know it exists. And it’s pretty disgusting if he asks me. Well, I heard you’ve had several issues with social media in the past. Haven’t we all? Maybe you can tell us a little bit about your experiences. On Twitter, I think I’m on my fourth or fifths account. I lost my main account. One week after the opening of my website. So that was in 2017. That was very stressful. I was like, without Twitter, how do I promote? I mean, at the time, we still had X-Tube and stuff like that. And I came from X-Tube. So for me, it was a good way to promote and Tumblr as well. But we lost these. And then losing Twitter, it sucks. It sucks because it’s the, I feel like it’s the biggest explosion now. I mean, there’s a very big fisting community on Twitter now. There’s a lot of sharing content. And yeah, I find a lot of my models on Twitter. I’m not even going to talk about Facebook and Instagram because that’s... Let’s not give Zuck the oxygen. I got banned from that for no reason. Or at least I don’t know the reason. But anyway. I mean, you have to be careful with the wording. We have to be careful with the pictures. We have to be careful with everything. So at some point, I’m still on Instagram, but I don’t put too much effort into it. I could imagine. Well, there’s not much you can’t put. No, no, no. And actually, my friend Yoshikawa’s a key that I film with a lot. Recently got deleted again on Instagram. So... I have an interview coming up with him. We’ll have to talk about it. Oh my goodness, gracious. You had a show with Yoshie not too long ago. So we released the movie of our show. The show was actually last year. It was at the Snap Festival in Brussels in Belgium. And they invited me to perform there. They wanted to... It was both like a talk and then a live performance. And then I invited Yoshie to perform with me. So basically, we presented our productions and then we shot a point on stage. So that was a lot of fun. And I mean, most of the audience was sex workers. So it was a very interesting talk. We had so many questions and very interesting questions. Usually when I do sex shows, it’s going to be in a sex club. Very late, everybody’s drunk. But in this case, it was very different. It was such a different mood and it was so enriching. It’s so many people. Yeah, yeah. So many people like fully awake and fully absorbing what we were doing. And then coming up with so many questions after, it was great. That’s nice. That’s your own ice. That’s also what I really enjoy with my production is. A lot of people are going to discover fistings through my movies. And that’s why it’s also important for me to explain that I am sober. In the fisting communities, there’s a lot of drugs going on. Whether it’s meth or... I don’t know, like some lecocaine in France is crazy. I’m not shaming anything, but I feel like it’s so dangerous to get fisted when you’re high. You don’t feel anything in your body. Everything is about feeling everything. For me, the pleasure of it is knowing that someone is entering my body and I think all the nerves feeling triggered, being touched and so many sensations going through my brain, I want to feel all of that. And being high is also the best way to get injured. Yeah, I was going to say, couldn’t that be dangerous? Yeah. I mean, I heard so many stories. So I have friends to do that happen, like getting intestine perforation. You get what is it called? Coloss me bad? Coloss me bad? Coloss, quiet is something like that. I mean, yeah, I mean, it’s really bad. And it’s terrifying. I mean, fisting is, yeah, it has to be done with love and attention and... Some precision? Precision, yeah, yeah. And so if you’re high, if the top is high, if the bottom is high, one of them doesn’t know what’s going on. So you don’t allow any of that on set, right? No, no, no, no. Good. I allow poppers to some extent, but not fully, like, not poppering again and again and again. But that’s it. I like to have my models aware of what’s going on. So yeah. Absolutely. So how on social media, how are your relationships with your followers? The protective type, or do you share anything personal about yourself? I guess I share quite a bit. It depends. Sometimes I need time for myself. Like I said, I went through some stuff with family issues recently. And so for that, I need to step back. But of older than that, I still... Yeah, I share quite a lot. I’m not hiding that I ever has been. I’m not pretending to be someone else. So yeah, I think the persona that I have on social media is me actually on a daily life. Like it’s me. It should be. Yeah. Again, authenticity is the best. There’s no talk about it. And I think on social media, I was talking to Alex from Seven Veils about that this morning. I said, you know, we were talking about, he says, hey, you need to be authentic. We were talking about a tweet with the old rapper, MC Hammer. I don’t know if you’re familiar with it. I’ve known him since he was 12 years old. And then didn’t even realize it was the same guy until I looked at one of his album covers. It’s a funny, funny story. And we didn’t see each other again until he was being interviewed at a Monday Night Football game. And I used to have a press pass to the games that I came upstairs and said hi to him. So anyway, I was telling Alex the story. But anyway, you know, he was asking about the tweet and I said, well, I know the guy and he goes, well, it’s good. It’s authentic. It’s, you know, yeah, it’s good to be authentic. I had my past as a sports reporter and got to meet a lot of the famous people in sports over the years. Never made it big myself, but had a lot of fun. I got to go to two Super Bowls on press passes. So that was kind of neat. So it seems fisting and extreme porn is becoming more mainstream these days. Why do you think that is? Yeah. Well, like I said, when I was very young, my first approach to fisting was watching this porn was to that is leather. I remember those days. I remember the leather shops and the cast girl. I was growing, you know, growing up in your San Francisco and I remember they had the leather shops and it was so, when you said that to me, I was just laughing. That was so funny. And it still exists and it’s great. And I am very much into it too. But I think at the time fisting was very much attached to this image. And so people were not into that is or people were not into that into leather would feel that fisting is not for them. And that changed. That changed with X-Tube, with people like me, I guess at some point. I mean, I started with when I was still twink, you know, very young. And I think I was one of the first young guy doing fisting without, I mean, fully, fully exposed with showing my face and everything and not hiding anything and talking openly about it. And now there are so much more guys of my generation and now younger ones who are doing this through Twitter, through like mainstream porn. Yeah, so yeah, I see a lot of more, a lot more fisting now. And I get also so many people contacting me like, "Oh, can you teach me fisting?" And it seems so much fun, blah, blah, blah, and yeah, I think it’s just talking to so much more people now. Yeah, unfortunately, I don’t think you can do a YouTube series on it. No, no. I think I open and I count once and I posted like a, because I posted like a tutorial, but it was very safe for work, like nothing kinky or whatever, but just. And they shut you down. Yeah, I think it took three days. Three days on. Three days, congratulations. Yeah, I’ve had two timeouts, so I have one strike left, so we’ll see how that goes. I’ve got to be really careful, the URLs I put on there. I can’t put your link on there, my friend, but that’s okay. We can figure something out. So how do you stay relevant while you’re chosen, niche is spreading in mainstream productions? Do you ever feel like you’re getting lost? I have time where again, I compare myself to other people and I’m like, okay, I wouldn’t have done this. Maybe I should because apparently this video is very popular. But then I step back and I’m like, no, I have these big fan base. I have a lot of supporters who are here for what I do and what I do is staying true to myself and to what I’m into. So my website is doing good, it’s been doing great during the pandemic and it’s still going strong. So I don’t see any reason to change the recipe. If it’s not broken, why fix it, right? Yeah, exactly. Of course I won’t fresh meat and every model is bringing an energy and a vibe to my movies anyway, so it’s not only me. And I think that’s how I stay relevant and if someday I step back as a performer, I will always have the energy of these people that I join in my production. Again, the authenticity is what keeps my production relevant, I guess. Cool. Any other fetishes you’d like to explore? I don’t know, man, I don’t really know actually. The thing is I’m always open. I’ve tried many, many things, pretty much everything that I wanted, I guess. But the good part is every time I have new people coming in, I ask them what they fetishes are. So every time there’s a new ID and I’m like, "Oh yeah, that’s actually hot. Let’s do this." So I’m just, yeah, I just keep my mind open and I’m ready to explore always. Cool. So what’s next for Axel Abyss? So this year I try to take things easy, like I said, for personal reasons, but I do have some shows coming up. I’m going to Bangkok in September. Yeah, you mentioned that when we were talking. Unfortunately, I’ll be traveling so we won’t get a chance to meet this time anyway. Yeah, that’s too bad. But yeah, I’m going to do this like this performance. We still, I kind of really talk about it because we’re still talking about what’s going to happen, but I’m very excited to do this. Yeah, it’s probably a good idea not to mention it in case someone in Thailand, so listen to me. Exactly. Yeah, just follow me on social media as I will mention it whenever it’s time. There you go. That sounds good. It should be around the time this is coming out. So hopefully those in position to see it will have that opportunity. Awesome. Well, Axel, I’d really like to thank you for being our guest today on Adult Site Broker Talk, and I hope we’ll get a chance to do it again soon. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Thank you, sir. My broker tip today is part four of what to do to make your site more valuable for when you decide to sell it later. Last week we talked about keeping your site up to date and making sure everything works. Next, find new ways to monetize your website, such as sell advertising. If you’ve got a free site like a tube, that’s the best way to monetize your site. If you have a tube, another way to make more money is to sell premium memberships. Offer free users one level of content, and for premium users, you can do things like give them higher quality or longer videos or both. You can also make the site add free for premium members. Start an affiliate program. If you have a pay site, this is a great way to increase your quality of traffic and get more joins. With all sites, you can figure out other upgrades and products you can sell to your users. Pay sites can also sell pay-per-view, where people have the option of paying by the scene for content that can’t get on the site. This is also another way to charge users as opposed to a monthly fee. Sell them other products like toys and novelties. Market your business. Do things to improve your search engine results? There are some great SEO consultants out there who can help you get higher search rankings in Google. If you want some recommendations, contact us on our site. List all the benefits of your site and your marketing and how they affect the user. Of course, hire a great marketing consulting firm such as Adult B2B Marketing, which we also happen to own. We’ll talk about this subject more next week. Next week we’ll be speaking with Brad Jones, the founder of the dating app Meet Kingsters. Adult Site Broker Talk has been brought to you by Webmaster Access, September 12th through the 15th. The show will be in beautiful Cyprus at the stunning Grand Resort on the beach. Go to the events page on our website at for a 25% discount for adult site broker talk listeners. To register, go to And that’s it for this week’s Adult Site Broker Talk. And once again, I’d like to thank my guest, Axel Abysse. Talk to you again next week on Adult Site Broker Talk. I’m Bruce Friedman. (gentle music) (gentle music) (gentle music) . (gentle music) [BLANK_AUDIO]

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