Adult Site Broker Talk Episode 115 with sex toy expert Kim Airs

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Now time for this week's interview. My guest today, an adult site broker talk is Kim heirs. Hey Kim, thanks for being with us today on adult site broker talk.

Speaker 2 (2m 29s): It's a real pleasure to be here. I love podcasts. Yay.

Speaker 1 (2m 34s): As do I, we had such a nice conversation beforehand. We could have gone on for hours about baseball.

Speaker 2 (2m 41s): It's my favorite sport. Everybody's like, oh, you must like football, cuz it's on a red Sox fan, which we talked about. We're like, oh, you must like the Patriots or you know, or the Bruins or the, you know, the Celtics I'm like, no,

Speaker 1 (2m 54s): No, just the socks. Just

Speaker 2 (2m 55s): The socks actually get depressed in, you know, the end of October.

Speaker 1 (3m 0s): Don't we all don't we all I know all baseball fans do exactly. Well. Lemme tell, let me tell the world about you. Oh goodness. Sexuality, educator, sex toy expert, public speaker blogger and sex industry writer combines her clear, concise sex education with a healthy dose of humor. She easily puts everyone at ease with her honesty and straightforward approach to a healthy sex life. She was the founder of new England's first female and couple's friendly sex toy store grand opening.

When she left her job at Harvard to sell rubber dicks to girls. Now Kim's been featured in Boston magazine, Marie Claire Playboy Playgirl AOL, the daily male and many others. Kim's a certified sex educator and her passion is helping others be comfortable about sexuality and gaining confidence in all things sex, not to mention sharing a good, dirty joker too on all social media. She's at Kim heirs, a I R S YouTube at Kim heirs grand opening with an exclamation mark and on only fans at Kim heirs.

I'm sorry. That's all the time we have today. Okay. I

Speaker 2 (4m 12s): Know. Thank God. There's only one of me. That's what I keep saying. It's all social media, Kim HES. I'm like, oh, thank God.

Speaker 1 (4m 20s): Sure. So, so Kim, yeah. How, how long have you been in the business and talk a little bit about your journey?

Speaker 2 (4m 29s): Sure. Well, it's basically LA LA LA LA. I was married in a past life is how I like to refer to it seven and a half years. It's okay. It was, you know, regular, no house, no kids, really simple divorce, blah, blah, blah. And, and he was like really like non adventurous and me, I don't have a mono. I do not have a monogamous Bo in my body. I just like, you know? Yeah, I'll love you and I'll marry you, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop fucking around and you know, and stuff like that.

So that's always been my Mo it's definitely a deal breaker when you're not both on the same pattern, you know, same launching thing. And that's how

Speaker 1 (5m 11s): You wanna, you wanna hear something funny? I just, I just did a, I just did an interview before you with Michael Ramos who owns ASN entertainment, which is a lifestyle publication. So it's kind of interesting. Oh yeah. That you say that because he was talking about the whole journey with his wife and getting into the lifestyle. But anyway, go

Speaker 2 (5m 29s): Ahead for sure. Yeah. No, no, that's it. And so, so yeah, so anyway, so we got divorced seven and a half years, super easy. And then I met a Swedish guy who was like, and I've always been really comfortable around sex stuff. Anyway, I think a lot of it has to do my mom's European. She was a war bride in world war II, the, my dad, the American soldier and the whole bit and stuff. So the Europeans definitely have a different attitude around sexuality and sex. So I think I inherited that a lot from that side of the family.

So anyway, in 88 I no 87. It would've been, I met a guy that I call this smut hound who into totally everything sex. And I was like, I fucking love this stuff. Just like public sex, strip joints, porno needing porno stars, sex toys. I mean, it's like everything. So it was just totally opened. Blue, opened the door for me on all that stuff. So, so at that time I started working at Harvard university that was at 88 and kind of, cause since I'm like so honest and open about this stuff, I was like the, in the economic department, like the girlfriend that you'd go to with your questions and stuff.

And then I was also the one that would like take them into the combat zone in Boston to buy a vibrator. And it would be like, okay, let's go do this. And they all knew me at the porno stores cuz I had to like go in there and speak at normal voices and we'd shoot the shit and the strip joints and everything like that. So I became that person. I also started writing for a magazine called on our backs, which was called entertainment for the adventurous lesbian. And that was pretty awesome. And so I was doing that and yeah.

And then what happened? So writing for on our backs. So then Fanny fatal was the nom plume for the woman that was one of the editors for on our backs. And she was doing a tour for about female ejaculation. She had done a book, no a video fatal video had done how to female ejaculate. And she was like I said, doing a tour to promote it. And the only place in Boston that would have her was not either of the feminist bookstores, cuz this was, this was 93.

Yeah. So we're fast forward. No 92 92. So fast forwarding a little bit, but you know, and so neither of the feminist bookstores would have her because back then it was like, if you were, you know, I don't wanna like pigeonhole or anything, but you know, lesbian, feminist and stuff like that. You were like, we don't talk about sex. This is, I mean, I've lived through all this stuff. Right. And me personally, if people are wondering, oh you're a big di you're first of all, I hate titles. I like saying I'm trisexual cuz I'll try anything sexual.

So I do, I do a lot around sex stuff. So I, like I said, I don't like pigeonholing, like, oh if you're this you're that I also, this is a little sidetrack. I also don't like public displays of affection personally. Yeah. Because if people look at you, they automatically pigeonhole you. So if I hold hands with a guy it's like, oh you're straight. If I hold hands with a woman. Oh you're lesbian, you know? Sure. And, and that's, and I don't, I don't don't wanna be thought of like, oh, that's who you are because you're holding hands with that person. Right. To put you in a box.

Yeah, I, yeah. And I just don't and even, you know, this isn't with strangers. I mean that's my own stuff, so that's my own stuff. So I really just don't like titles in that sense. And you know, you can say pansexual, whatever, whatever. But anyway, so, so anyway, so the only place that would have her speak in Boston was at the gay men's bookstore. Interesting called glad day. And they, they were totally cool with it. Well, the next day, and this was on Columbus day, weekend 92, the next day she was presenting in the New York city Manhattan apartment of Dell Williams.

Who's the woman who founded Eve's garden, which is considered the first feminist sex toy store. Yeah. And it opened in 73 in Manhattan. So she presented there and it was a hands-on workshop, which was really hysterical and fun. Yeah. It was like, so she showed the video and it was like, okay, this is GPO and female ejaculation. And then she's like, oh, you know, all right, who wants to, you know, they had the mirrors up and the speculums and everything. Okay. Who wants to see their GPO?

So this like cute little blonde girl said, oh, I'll do that. So, you know, everybody's like, you know, swarming around her. So she spreads, her leg, puts the speculum in, you turn it sideways. If you wanna see your G spot, as opposed to like how they do it, when you do an exam, which actually pushes it up. So you put it sideways. So the handle is on the side. Then you can like really see where the GPO like dips down anyway. So puts the speculum in. She looks and she's got a cute little blonde GPO. Okay, fine. If you wonder where G-spot in, that's a whole nother podcast.

So anyway, I'm like, okay, I'll do this. So I go and I like shoved the thing in and the mirrors there and Deb sun do, who was the editor who was Fanny fatal that I didn't figure out until that night she looks, she goes, wow, you've got a really big and meaty GS spot. And I look at her, I said, that's cuz I'm a big and meaty girl. You know? So, so that was at, so at the end where this is all leading to like, you know, people are leaving and stuff like that. So we get shooting the shit. So this is Dell Williams, the founder of the oldest sex toy store and Deb sun do, who just had this shit to go down in Boston, you know, and stuff like this.

I said, you know what? We could use a women's sex toy store in Boston. I could do that. I could do that. Clouds parted bolt of lightning came down. That was it. Wow. That was it. Wow. So I was staying with two lesbian friends of mine at their place. The ones that actually turned me onto on backs magazine. And I went there, I said, I'm gonna open up a woman's sex toys store in Boston. They're like, well, if anybody can do it, it's you, my background, I grew up on top of my father's furniture store. My two sisters are in retail management.

My grandfather was a troubleshoot for Montgomery ward. This is not a big deal for me to open up a store. Yeah. So I gave myself about a year and then I app at good vibrations in San Francisco in March of 93. And that was incredible. I mean, it was my life calling. I mean, it was just like, this is it. This is it. So whole, whole other stuff. I ended up opening November 93, the name. Oh yeah. So the, so the, well actually going back just a little again is October.

So Columbus day weekend when I drove down to New Jersey, cuz that's where my family is. That's where I grew up. I, I talked to my brother about it. So my brother and I are like always on the same wave, ranks, everything like that. He's my advisor and just guide and everything. So I said, I'm thinking about doing this after my boss at Harvard retires and my boss at Harvard who shall be unnamed, but a very prominent person at Harvard who's since retired.

He's 94 and we adore each other still. Yes. Anyway, my brother said, if it's such a good idea, somebody else is gonna beat you to it. And he goes, who's life. Are we talking about here? So it got me thinking like he's right. He's right. So that I was like, I'm gonna give myself a year. Cuz in academia that's works really well. It would be at the end of the summer, you know? So that's when I decided to do it. And then, and you know, he's like who, who are you gonna get your money from?

I hit up a friend of mine that was a former bartender in the combat zone. Somebody I'd worked with for a while doing catering and stuff. So he, he gave me $14,000 to start the business. And that was in 90. Well, that was 93, November 93. And then 2004, I grossed 1.6 million. Geez. So that was a pretty good proje, you know, trajectory for sure.

Damn straight. Yeah. So I opened up. Oh yeah. And so then I thought I thinking of the name of the store, that was a whole nother story, but yeah. Grand opening. So in 95 the internet was a little baby and I'm like, well I guess I better get grand opening.com. And so I have grand opening.com. So I own the store. I actually was opened in LA for two years in west Hollywood in oh three to oh five. And so I sold the store at the end of oh five.

It was 12 years. And it was like, when you own a business, well, I'll tell you my one sentence that maybe if anybody was listening, can relate to and owning your own business. Okay. Ready? I miss my store tremendously, but nothing that had my signature on it.

Speaker 1 (14m 44s): I get it.

Speaker 2 (14m 45s): I bet get it. You do.

Speaker 1 (14m 46s): Cause there's boy, I get it.

Speaker 2 (14m 48s): That's

Speaker 1 (14m 49s): I so get it. I so

Speaker 2 (14m 50s): Get it. No idea. Unless you've been in those shoes. Oh, absolutely. So yeah. So I do miss my store tremendously, but I'm still, you know, obviously very much working in the industry and having yeah. So since I sold it, I didn't have to live in Boston anymore. The below market rent apartment that I was spoiled with was going condo. So I had to move anyway. So in oh six, I moved out here in LA and I always like to say it's because I really have an addiction I have to deal with. It's called motorcycle riding and I'm pretty damned addicted to it. I got three bikes, but I only ride one at a time.

Speaker 1 (15m 23s): Well, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Cuz I think trying to ride three at the same time would deal a little dangerous.

Speaker 2 (15m 28s): I think get a little tricky. It really can. So yeah. I kind of avoid doing that. So yeah. So that's so I ride motorcycles. I've got a motorcycles, all painted with sex toys. It's called the big vibe. That's actually my license. Geez, big vibe. Interesting shadow seven 50 it's seven 50 arrow for those keeping you 2004, keep it track, got a hundred, 2000 miles on it. I've had it since it was new. Wow. And then I've got another bike. Oh yeah. If you really wanna see something else that I do. Cause I do a lot of things. Just go to slay.

It com I actually right around is Santa Claus between Thanksgiving and Christmas. And I, I totally, I totally do the head to toe Santa thing, even with a Santa hat that fits over a helmet. I love

Speaker 1 (16m 15s): It.

Speaker 2 (16m 16s): I love it. Yeah. And then

Speaker 1 (16m 17s): You market those

Speaker 2 (16m 19s): Well. Yeah. Well I wanna market the whole program because I put unwrap toys in the back and I have a double wide milk crate. That's that's in the bottom of a felt Santas SAC. So you don't see, but that's what I bunch you down to the, the backseat and the lo track and I put unwrap toys and then I ride into the hood and just anonymously give them out to

Speaker 1 (16m 41s): Kids. Ah, that's

Speaker 2 (16m 42s): Sweet. So

Speaker 1 (16m 43s): I'm really, that's very

Speaker 2 (16m 44s): Sweet. Yeah. I'm really dedicated about doing that. Yeah. If you want fun, you can Google an article that was written in 2013. If you do LA times motorcycle, Santa it'll come up about it and then play it forward. Dot com has a cute video anyway, back to sex and sex toys. Huh? So since, since, well, pretty much, oh five. I've still been working in the industry. I've worked for several companies since then. And right now I do a lot of writing for companies. I'll do a ton of freelance. I do consulting when somebody's like, oh I have I've invented an item.

All right. Let's see what it is. Okay. So you invented a new cocking. Great. Have you checked what the competition is and what else is out there and stuff? So I do a lot of consulting. I don't put anybody down because a lot of people have ideas and I don't wanna be the one like, well, that's a stupid idea. Cause I wouldn't, I'm not that person, you know, if they do think they have a conquering, that's really good that doesn't exist. Well show let's see what you have in mind. Sure. And then when we start talking about production cost, I know my shit.

I know my shit. And tons of people will tell me that. And I know it inside out is when they start seeing like production and MOQ, which is minimum order, quantity and price breaking and Mo making molds. I mean, that's, you have to make a mold for everything that's involved. And this is any consumer product. So it's not just sex choice, but that get the meter goes higher and higher and higher people have no idea. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (18m 17s): They have an idea. They have an idea and they don't think about what it's gonna cost to invest in the idea,

Speaker 2 (18m 21s): Right. To make it. So then they're like, well, I could sell my idea to a company that already exists and is making them doesn't work in this business. Nope. The sex industry does not

Speaker 1 (18m 32s): Ask me if you have an I, I, people don't buy ideas. They buy successful businesses. Well, Kim, I wanna congratulate you because you just set the record for the longest ever answer on adult site, broker talk. So

Speaker 2 (18m 46s): Excellent. I hope everyone found it compelling

Speaker 1 (18m 49s): And

Speaker 2 (18m 49s): Interesting and wanna hear more.

Speaker 1 (18m 52s): Well, I, so

Speaker 2 (18m 53s): Let's go with the next question.

Speaker 1 (18m 55s): Okay. Hopefully school won't be quite as long.

Speaker 2 (18m 59s): Okay.

Speaker 1 (18m 60s): What's the most Nona you were great. So what's the most incredible technology that's in the adult toy world. Now

Speaker 2 (19m 7s): I would say it's definitely the remote control and app control, which is there's more and more toys that are doing that. And the pricing has come down, especially around remotes. Remotes used to be fucking crazy expensive, like in 95. I think there was a little bullet vibe about this size of the top of your thumb. Right? So pretty small that had two thin wires coming out. Well, you'd pull on the wires and it you'd kill it. Right. It was 250 fucking dollars for that.

And now you can get a remote control toy for like 25 30 bucks maybe. Sure. And they work and they don't have those stinky wires sticking out of 'em. So the remote control stuff is fucking amazing. I mean, you get like evolved, make someone that, that you can inflate remote control. You can, you know, deflate and of course vibrating for sure. Rotation, all remote control. It's just like amazing. And that's within a room and then there's other toys in manufacturers that make them that are app controlled too.

So, you know, you can get, you can have 'em both that way too. And then like, like the Kru K I I R O O toys.

Speaker 1 (20m 19s): Yes. Yeah. I know those guys.

Speaker 2 (20m 20s): Right. And love end. Right. So they that's, they're really popular with the camming community. Yes. Because you can, you know, pass along the information to your client and they can control it and woo. You know, everybody makes money on that one. So yeah. Virtual

Speaker 1 (20m 35s): Sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20m 37s): That's, that's so amazing. And then something that's really intrigued me that I've seen, you know, cuz I get all the new toys to review and everything. So I kind know what's out, out there, the, the qu quality and quantity to a, a certain extent of the guy toys that are out now, the masturbates that suck and vibrate and tug and

Speaker 1 (21m 2s): Ah, do tell

Speaker 2 (21m 3s): Stroke, oh my, they give me fucking penis envy. Let me tell you. I'm like, Jesus, I wish I had something stuff in this. This looks fucking awesome. Like I just got one, there's a company, Chinese company. I don't know how much they're infiltrating the us. That's a whole nother, that's a whole nother thing. Tracy's dog. So it's like, it's kind of a little clumsy shaped, I mean, but you know, whatever, but it just it's you put your junk in it and it's got, you know, the TPR sleeve and you put it in and it, it like massages and sucks.

Your Dick. I'm like, man, I would love this. There's

Speaker 1 (21m 46s): Have you ever, do you ever, do you ever bring guys in to help you with your reviews

Speaker 2 (21m 50s): Every once in a while? You know, of course everybody wants to be that guy, but, but it's

Speaker 1 (21m 56s): Like, no, no, but no, but I, I was just, I was just kind of thinking to truly review a male sex toy don't you have to have,

Speaker 2 (22m 5s): Have a Dick gift. Sure. Yeah. Well, I, I have a lot of dicks. They just don't have nerve endings.

Speaker 1 (22m 12s): Well, I was gonna ask you about that. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22m 17s): So yeah. I mean, you know, yeah. I do have, do have some guy testers, but it's so funny cuz I mean, I take testing toys pretty seriously. Of course, in the sense that like I'm like, all right, this is a good shape, you know? Oh yeah, this is a good one, you know? And, and I know what I like and blah, blah, blah and stuff. And so guys, I they're, I, you know, I haven't, I know there's plenty of 'em out there, but I haven't met a guy that takes testing sex toys as seriously as I do.

They're

Speaker 1 (22m 48s): Like felt great.

Speaker 2 (22m 50s): They're like, yeah, felt great. Now fuck me. You know, it's like, no, I wanna test the product. How do you like it? It's it's OK. Yeah. No, my Dick it's like, no, I wanted, you know, no, just like this. So

Speaker 1 (23m 4s): I think you need to find some new testers. So if anyone's, if anyone's listening in the Los Angeles area, who's looking to be a male sex toy tester, please contact Kims on social media.

Speaker 2 (23m 16s): And don't like, think that I'm gonna fucking put out because your Dick is gonna go into some gizmo. All, I love

Speaker 1 (23m 24s): It. What's the most amazing thing you've invented.

Speaker 2 (23m 30s): Oh gosh, let me think. Well, I was, I brought a product to market and this was in 2015. I think it was called bubble love. And it was an underwater, basically an underwater jet that would pull air down on a tube. And so it would shoot. So yeah, everybody's thinking of jacuzzi, but any of us with Volvos, you go up against a jacuzzi jet and it can be kind of harsh, you know? Yeah. I like it, but it can be like, wow.

You know, especially when you start really digging into the naughty bits, you know, and not just like trying to go on on outer laborer or something like that. So it was bubble love. So it would be a really strong sensation, but it was combined with bubbles. It was pretty damn amazing. And it was engineered. And how I found that inventor of that was through a friend that met that, met him at a wedding and he said, and he was a guest. And he's like, yeah, somebody I've, he, he was actually the money guy behind it.

He's like, yeah, I've got a sex toy. I have no idea how to get it out in the industry. My friend's like, have I got the person for you? So I worked with a lot of it with the packaging and all that and everything. And then when we released it, I had all my friends in the business say, you didn't tell me about this. I'm like exactly. You know, that's how I roll. So anyway, what happened sadly incredibly sadly, was that the guy who engineered it did not engineer. Okay. Listen to this people, if you wanna invent a product, did not engineer the lithium ion battery on inside this sealed silicone casing to last more than a year.

Oops. Right. Because you have to assume that once you and this is from date of manufacturer, okay. So it's gonna take, you know, three like figure three months for manufacturer on the water to the us. So three months, time is tick nine months left, goes to a distributor, sits on a shelf, goes to a retailer, sits on a shelf, the product end up failing. Oh no. Once it lost its charge, you could not recharge it.

Oh shit. So, and that was because he didn't engineer the battery to last long enough for a three year cycle of sitting on the shelf. He should

Speaker 1 (25m 58s): Have talked to Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (25m 60s): He fucking should have talked to me. I know Elon Musk. I know. Huh. So for sure. So that was a thing. And so when I, cuz I was brand manager, I was like running the show and doing the trainings and everything like this. And so I started getting him back and we warrantied it for, it was at least a year warranty and I'm getting him back. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? It's what you know. And when they started, what a

Speaker 1 (26m 23s): Disaster

Speaker 2 (26m 24s): It's like, are you fucking kidding? He's like, well I engineered to last a year. I'm like, you didn't fucking ask me, you know, I could have told you this day one, it's gotta be a three year engineering for the battery at least. So that product failed. And so that's, that was, I mean that I was really a hundred million percent behind that product. Sure. And it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (26m 48s): That's a, that's a bummer.

Speaker 2 (26m 50s): So that's a total bummer. So yeah, there's a, there's another product that I'm behind that I had seen pop up somewhere in my social media or something called the water slide and that's pretty cool. So I'm like, I don't know about this product. So I got in touch with them and I'm like, I can make your product bigger in this industry and what it is. It's really simple. It's poly tying and it's kind of like a stretched out Z shape and you attach it to a, a outward facing bathtub faucet with just a ribbon and then it shoots the water out.

So girls and Volvo owners out there, how do we get off? Usually the first time you scrunch under the water, the faucet and the bathtub. So this, you don't have to scrunch

Speaker 1 (27m 37s): Never heard that. I've never heard that before. See I learned something

Speaker 2 (27m 42s): Good. So water slides. So I still work with them and everything, but I got them into with distributors and you know, I got, 'em much more into the network of adult stores. So it's doing really well. I'm really happy about it. And you know, cuz I feel like I, I, you know, I'm a part of it and the woman that invented it. She's awesome. I love her to pieces, Maureen Pollock. She's great. And it's just a really great product and I really believe in 'em you know, so that's some, you know, company I worked with as well.

Speaker 1 (28m 11s): So what is your favorite lubricant?

Speaker 2 (28m 14s): My favorite lubricant. It's more of a style than just the type or just the company. I love hybrid lubricants. Okay. I know one of the questions is why do I fucking hate silicone lube?

Speaker 1 (28m 27s): Wait, let me ask it. Why do you fucking hate silicone lube? That wasn't the exact words, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (28m 32s): I'm gonna just drop the FBO in that one because it's that's podcast, you know? Okay. Yes. So there's, there's simplicity for simplicity sake. There's three kinds of lube water based lube, silicone lube and hybrid. So water based lube. I love water lube cuz it's easy to wash off for me. That's the biggest key, right? Easy to wash off. So water BA my body's water based. So it does really well with my body. Very good. I don't have any issues with any ingredient, except I hate that warming and cooling stuff.

I hate that stuff, but anyway, that's my personal thing. Okay. Why I fucking hate silicone lubricant. You cannot wash that off. It's like oil. Hmm. It's like oil. So you can have it all over your junk and everything like that. What I hate about it when it's on your fucking hands, because then it's like all over the toys, it's all over the light switches. It's all over everything. I hate Silicon loop. A lot of people love it because you don't have to keep adding lubricant or adding water with a water based loop.

Sure. I get that. But I hate it because it's, I just, I even hate opening the bottles because it's like it gets on the bottle, you know, and just hates Hybrid on the other hand has the qualities of both. So it's a hybrid. Like we have, you know, electric and gas hybrid cars. So it's, it's got the properties of a water based lube, but it lasts longer than a typical water based lube because it does have usually little silicone in it too, but not like a pure silicone lube.

So hybrid lube, it works great with any of the toys. Oh, I'll just jump into this. Since we have active listeners and you do wanna learn something. Yes. Okay. It's been thought that do not. And it'll say this on packages and everything do not use a silicone based lube with silicone toys. All right. Well that goes, let's go to the way back machine to 1997, when there were only a like two or three sex toy manufacturers and one of 'em in particular VIX and creations.

If you used a silicone lubricant with a Vixen creations toy, it would change the surface of the toy and make it sticky. Like, oh, I'll just wash my toy. Oh no, it changed it chemically. You could not wash. So it would like remain sticky.

Speaker 1 (31m 3s): Oh it kind of reminds me of my BMW door handles here. The heat

Speaker 2 (31m 7s): That sure could be. So that's when that started. Oh, don't you Silicon lube with silicone toys. Well,

Speaker 1 (31m 14s): But, but I've never put silicone lube on it just to let you

Speaker 2 (31m 16s): Know. Probably not because then you won't be able, just won't be able to get in your car. Don't do that. That's like don't use armor roll on the surface of your tire. That will fuck up your tires. Use it only outside. So it looks good in pictures. That's it. There you go. Or don't put it on your seat of your car because you're gonna like, feel like you're in, ameba in your car seat. All right. So yeah, so that's when that started in 97. Okay. So a lot of things have changed if you're gonna ha try silicone loop with silicone toy, just put like two or three drops of the silicone loop on a surface of your sex toy.

Silicone sex toy can be any kind, silicone put it on a space where you're not gonna be using it. So you're not gonna use like the bottom of the base. You know, you're not gonna use any toy will have a surface on it that you will not be using that. So you put like two or three drops there and leave it overnight right there. And then in the morning, wipe it off. And if you can wipe it off and it's nice and clean, no problem using that lube with a toy, if it sticky, eh, do not use that lubricant with, with that toy.

Yeah. So yeah. So that's, that's kind of the trick with that, but yeah. So that's why I like hybrid lubes. It's creamy. It's excellent for making it look like fake come when you wanna do like come shots and stuff. It's great. Wicked makes a really good one. Simply simply hybrid their whole simply. Line's really nice. Yeah. There's a whole bunch of companies that make a hybrid lube. So those, those are my favorite just cuz it's easy to wash off. That's it? And it works with toys.

Speaker 1 (32m 56s): How many jobs have you had in your, in your life? She laughed.

Speaker 2 (33m 2s): I laugh hysterically. Cause people are like, you've done that too. I've worked in the technical library for Duracell their technical library before like the internet. It was Lexus nexus searches. So yeah. Duracell and for GAF corporation, let's see I've ocean county public library worked there. I've worked. I've probably had at least 30 different jobs.

Yeah. Building superintendent, house painting interior. I used to race hydroplanes. Not that in board hydroplanes. Not that that was a job, but it was definitely an adventure. That was when I was a teenager. Okay. I was chairman of the division of the new England division of the United States fencing association. So I was competitive fencer for a number of years. Oh wow. Yeah. Just totally cool. I've been vice president of my motorcycle club.

Let's see. And jobs. I mean, I've worked for several sex toy companies, pipe, dream products, top go impulse, novelties, a small company channel one releasing. Let's see, I worked for a lubricant company that shall go unnamed. Well

Speaker 1 (34m 24s): They must make, they must make Silicon lubes. Then

Speaker 2 (34m 27s): It's a major one. Yeah, of course they do. Yeah. Let's see. I,

Speaker 1 (34m 33s): You ever tell, did you ever tell hate their product?

Speaker 2 (34m 36s): Well, that one people always knew that I don't like silicone lube. Fortunately they made several different kinds, so ah, okay. You know, which is good. Yeah. But so I could, I can, I could never promote. I only promote things I believe in and things I use, you know, honest to Pete because I, I don't wanna bullshit people. I, I don't that's I have never bullshit people my whole life I used to sell brass at Frederick's yeah. I just threw that in because I love Fredericks and Hollywood brass and they're great.

It's unfortunately they're not there. Yeah. But yeah, so that's, that's a big part. So like they, yeah, but if somebody said, oh we have Silicon lube, you wanna promote? I'd be like, no, I'll just write about it. But I won't. I can't, I that's it now that so point

Speaker 1 (35m 23s): You won't write real positively about

Speaker 2 (35m 25s): It. No, I, when I review a Silicon, it's more like I kind of write about the attributes of it. Hmm. I won't write like I fucking hate Silicon lubricant.

Speaker 1 (35m 38s): You don't say that in there, huh?

Speaker 2 (35m 40s): No, no, no. The weird thing, the weird thing is when I get a flavored lubricant that I don't like flavored lubricant, you know what? This is something with lubricants. Okay. Why, how come? Well, actually there is one company that makes it, but they don't make pussy flavored lubricant. And I know there's not just one taste. Trust me on that. But I had brought that up with a lubricant manufacturer and they look at like what? And it actually, what made me think about it was that I had gotten a question cuz I get questions all the time from a guy who said my wife went through menopause and her taste had changed.

Speaker 1 (36m 19s): Interesting.

Speaker 2 (36m 20s): Which I totally get. Cuz it's all hormonal. Yeah. And he goes, and I miss that taste. He goes, it was just so beautiful. And, and I thought, oh cuz you know, I'm such an empath. And it was, I was like, oh I bet that's I bet that, you know, that's sad. And I thought, wouldn't it be great if there was a lubricant that would taste like, you know, there would probably be like 10 different tastes I think. But whenever I bring that up, people are like, that's weird. I'm like, no it's not weird and stuff. I thought about making, okay, here's a good one.

It's out there already. But I thought we should make a flavored anal and then the, the tagline could be so your asshole don't taste like shit

Speaker 1 (37m 3s): Now that's good.

Speaker 2 (37m 4s): Isn't that a good one? I know. I've got a lot of

Speaker 1 (37m 7s): Those. I love a lot of those. I love

Speaker 2 (37m 8s): It. That would be a good one. All what's another question. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37m 15s): What is the, why do you crack me up? What does the, what does the

Speaker 2 (37m 19s): Future have?

Speaker 1 (37m 21s): What does the future hold for you?

Speaker 2 (37m 24s): I will tell you. And I will tell everybody that listens to your podcast.

Speaker 1 (37m 29s): Yes.

Speaker 2 (37m 30s): All right. You're ready.

Speaker 1 (37m 33s): I was ready when I asked the question,

Speaker 2 (37m 34s): I was gonna say, I'm gonna get naked for you right now. It's a good one. So if you can't tell you my dear, as well as your dear listeners, I have a crazy passion for sex and all things

Speaker 1 (37m 53s): I couldn't tell. I couldn't

Speaker 2 (37m 54s): Tell. I know I try to put a lid on it every once in a while.

Speaker 1 (37m 57s): You really do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37m 59s): And I just do a lot of things in sex. I'm also drummer please. 64 years old, which is like really fucking weird.

Speaker 1 (38m 9s): But anyway, join the club.

Speaker 2 (38m 11s): Oh, it's so weird.

Speaker 1 (38m 12s): We're the same age. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (38m 14s): There you go. Huh? I know. So, and I'm funny. Okay. I know I'm to a whole hour and a half show on sex toys and it's also edutainment. So it's got like a whole lot of other information like BDSM and anal sex and GPO. And so the title of the show is you ready for it? I am, am. It's called. You wanna put that? Where I came up with the title? It's a good one. So what I wanna do because there is no one in this market right now is be that funny old lady that talks frankly, and honestly, and hysterically about sex.

Speaker 1 (38m 55s): I think it would go great.

Speaker 2 (38m 56s): I think so too. So that's, you're

Speaker 1 (38m 58s): Talking, we're talking about standup, right?

Speaker 2 (38m 60s): Stand up, stand up. Yeah. Stand up. And just really, you know, being that outrageous older woman that talks about all sorts of things, including fucking young men. Like not fucking young man, but fucking young man. Yes. Because they shoot off like Geers, you know, you get somebody who's 64 and it's like,

Speaker 1 (39m 26s): No comment.

Speaker 2 (39m 28s): I'll tell you, you get these young guys and like you have to duck it or else, you know, you'll get hit in the, you know, it's like that. Wow. That's that on the ceiling?

Speaker 1 (39m 35s): Huh? Or anything

Speaker 2 (39m 37s): I'll tell you, you're like,

Speaker 1 (39m 38s): Woo. You'll have to, you'll have to let me know when you start this and that will be a whole other podcast

Speaker 2 (39m 44s): It's gonna be so yeah. So that's the, you know, and I know that a lot of it is over social media now, but I really love performing in front of live audiences. Cause get so much more feel out of it. So yeah. So stay tuned on that. Cause I'm, I'm doing a lot,

Speaker 1 (39m 58s): I mean, coming to a comedy, coming to a comedy club near you.

Speaker 2 (40m 2s): Oh no, I know. Yeah. And it's long, you know, it's kind of cuz I have performed at comedy clubs, but they have to know what I'm gonna be presenting. So if you're like doing 10 minutes or you know, 15 minutes at a place, I don't wanna start cracking out DDoS and vibrators and shit like that because that can like really throw people off. And especially like in this politically correct world, you know, I don't wanna, I don't wanna trigger people. I mean, that's what I, I don't, that's not my Mo on any of this, you know? Sure, sure. So the thing is it would be like my own doing, doing my show on a bigger scale, you know, cuz then people will know that's what it's about.

You know, it's like the world of sex toys and all this stuff like this, but yeah. And crack 'em out. And I mean, that's the thing is when I do my shows is I'll have like a table with about 30 different things on it, but I don't necessarily talk about all of them, but it's just like, it's all improv. I could never study a script and it just depends on like where I wanna go with it. And then of course I know like a lot of my beats with a lot of the products and things like that, but it's, it's all improv. So it depends on what the audience feedback is, what they wanna learn, what, you know, what tangent I go off on, you know?

And just,

Speaker 1 (41m 12s): I can't imagine a tangent me

Speaker 2 (41m 16s): To entertain. No. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41m 18s): That's not, that's not even possible.

Speaker 2 (41m 20s): No, it's not my wheelhouse. So no. So that's, that's what's that's I posted in the future. Should

Speaker 1 (41m 27s): You should do it at, at some of the adult at some of the adult shows. I think I'd be great.

Speaker 2 (41m 32s): Yeah. Yeah. I mean I've, MCed the O awards for a number years, so that's been good. And

Speaker 1 (41m 37s): That wasn't a fun when I said, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (41m 39s): Oh, oh no. So that was improv. And it was so funny cuz I love doing anatomy also. And I've got the Volvo puppet, the onerous Volvo puppet, which my pal Dory lays. Awesome. It's great. It's it's a hand puppet. It it's I've used it in tons of workshops. It's really great. So I kind of, where was one? I forget what year I was hosting it. I think it was actually 2020 right before the shutdown and stuff. Of course. And so I do the anatomy, you know, with the pussy puppet and then I crack out a DDA with a section cup and I'm like, this is a Dick. And then I just tossed it over my shoulder and the fucking thing, I was twirling the in the air and then slams right down on the suction cup base.

Oh

Speaker 1 (42m 17s): I love it.

Speaker 2 (42m 17s): So everybody thought I practiced that I'm like

Speaker 1 (42m 22s): That

Speaker 2 (42m 25s): Hysterical. I'm just the didn't like how it landed and stuff. It was like, oh my God, I've got it on video. It's pretty funny. So yeah. So it's just so that's, that's what I wanna do is just really, you know, out there honest stuff and stuff. So, so yeah, so it's a matter of just kind of getting it out there and yeah. Doing the media thing a lot more and the social media thing obviously sounds like fun. Stay tuned. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42m 51s): Let me know. Let me know.

Speaker 2 (42m 53s): I will, as a matter of fact,

Speaker 1 (42m 55s): So who's the most famous person you've ever trained motorcycle riding.

Speaker 2 (43m 0s): Okay. For all of you, sons of anarchy fans out there, and I know there's a few of you. I trained rat boy. Oh. So he was on the third season and went all the way through the eighth. And what, what if you,

Speaker 1 (43m 14s): If you say, say so, never seen it. So

Speaker 2 (43m 17s): As I know, it's true. It's true. Nico, Nico, Tara, great, wonderful sweetheart of a guy. And he was working as a waiter, which is what you do before you break into acting here in LA. Yes. And he was working as a waiter and he got on the show and Kurt Sutter had said, oh, it's a show about motorcycles. If you learn how to ride, we will pay for it for instruction. You'll get written in the show a lot more. So he had taken the safety course, which is what I always recommend. And then he asked around where he worked like, do you know anybody who does motorcycle coaching?

And this guy said, yeah, Kim does. So they co connected us. So I trained him like more, it was funny cuz it's really, it's a lot like horseback riding. Like they make it look so easy on TV, but it's really, there's, there's like five things you have to do when, before you take off on a motorcycle, you know, and you don't think of these things. Like a lot of times you don't even think of them when you're a rider, but I had to break it down and we actually did drills of getting on your bike fast and getting off your bike fast.

Sure. Because that's what they do on TV and stuff. So we did that of course. And we also did close riding, which I don't train on, but that's what they do in TV. So it was, it was so he would feel not spooked if, you know, I pulled up like two feet away from him, you know, I would never recommend doing that, like training a person, but this was for the TV thing. So he's a great rider and stuff we haven't ridden in a while, but he's up for it anytime. Very cool. So, so yeah, so that was great. And, and we would go to Harley dealers and people were like, wait aren't you on sunset?

And he's like, yeah, like he's so chill. Like yeah, yeah. You know and stuff. So yeah. He's gotten a lot of mileage out there. He's in the movie now. Cause, cause I think that was his, well, I know that was his groundbreaking break to be an actor. So he's pretty regularly doing gigs and movies in the latest is the mark Walberg film called father St. So he's in there, he's in the trailer and he's like one like that gives him advice and he's all kind of dark and stuff. So yeah. It's like, yeah, go Nico.

So yeah. It's cool. He's a great guy.

Speaker 1 (45m 23s): Very, very cool. Yeah. Well remind people where to find you on social media,

Speaker 2 (45m 28s): Everywhere. Kim HES. I RS, I'm working on TikTok. That's the only one I have. I haven't I've got it. No

Speaker 1 (45m 35s): TikTok.

Speaker 2 (45m 36s): Well, it's got, well the thing, because I wanna do it. So I registered for it and then they're like, okay, what's your password? And I put in my password, it's like, that's not your password. And it's like, that's my fucking password. But so it's the backend stuff that I have to straighten out. And you can't talk to anybody who's there. Yes, of course. So, and you know, that's the old school, you know, God forbid. And then yeah. So they're like, well you could be Kim airs one. It's like, no, I am Kim heirs. I'm not the impersonator of, so I gotta deal with that.

But I'm on, oh God, I'm Patreon. Only fans. It's just sex ed. I don't show my junk. Sorry guys. Just don't do that. Let's see YouTube. Kim's you got that? Twitter, Instagram, all Kim airs. What else is there? There's a few of them. Wait, let me, oh yeah. I'm on cameo, which has been a real food. I go as naughty grandma. I record really funny videos from people on cameo.

Another one that's pretty, it's interesting is mentor do so mentor.cam. I do one to one sessions with people. Very good. So that's, that's a really good one. Cuz then people can really ask me stuff and, and I can show them toys or I can talk to them and stuff. I am not a therapist. So I make that really clear. I'm not a therapist, but let me tell you, I know more than like probably fucking 90% of the sex therapists that are out there. Sure. And I experience it. I walk the walk and talk the talk.

It's not like I've read it from a book. Okay. So there's a lot to be said about personal experience when it comes to this stuff too. And just people that I've worked with. I mean, it's pretty amazing. That's you? Me? I also have a podcast too. It's called sex chat with Kim HES that I've got guests and also my own stuff and, and just all sorts. I take questions from listeners. You can get me at Kim HES sex chat. So it has two S's in the middle Kim air sex chat, gmail.com. And that all get goes straight to me.

And so I answer questions from that and yeah. And then grand opening.com. You'll see my lovely face on it. Holding a bouquet of sex toys. Fabulous. That's a good fun place. And I'll throw in a little a lit just cause I love you. Aw. I am gonna put in a code, a discount code for any of your listeners. What, what would you suggest? What would be a good word?

Speaker 3 (48m 9s): Bruce. Bruce is good.

Speaker 2 (48m 12s): Okay. BR Bruce is good. Would be a good code. So I'll, I'll, I'll enter that in tonight actually. So at check out, if you enter the word Bruce or the name, Bruce, you'll get a discount from grand opening.com and that'll just be, let's see. So put that through the end of

Speaker 1 (48m 34s): No, well, I should, I should tell you and everybody that we're recording this April 26th, but it's not gonna run until

Speaker 3 (48m 41s): August. So

Speaker 2 (48m 43s): August you're ahead of the game. I'll just, you know what?

Speaker 1 (48m 46s): I got so many, I got such a backlog of interviews. My apologies.

Speaker 2 (48m 51s): Oh, that's just bump. 'em put me

Speaker 3 (48m 53s): Up

Speaker 1 (48m 53s): For yeah. For you.

Speaker 2 (48m 54s): Absolutely. No, what I'll do is I won't let it expire because that's video podcast as I can just live out there and I don't think I absolutely I'll put a coupon in there for Bruce. So just put Bruce in it, check out and you'll get a little discount there and we love discounts. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (49m 12s): That's really,

Speaker 2 (49m 13s): Yes we do. Lucky listeners.

Speaker 3 (49m 15s): I do appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (49m 15s): Excellent.

Speaker 1 (49m 16s): Well, Hey Kim.

Speaker 2 (49m 17s): Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (49m 18s): I'd like to thank you for being our guest today and adult site broker talk, and I hope we'll get a chance to do this again soon.

Speaker 2 (49m 25s): Absolutely. And meet I R L

Speaker 1 (49m 29s): My broker tip today has to do with what to do to make your site more valuable for when you decide to sell it later, this will be the first in a multi-part series. First, make sure you're converting as much of your traffic as possible. Traffic's expensive. Whether it's search engine, traffic, review, site, traffic, or affiliate traffic, you paid a lot for it. So make sure that when someone lands on your site, you give them every opportunity possible to either spend money or do whatever it is you want your visitors to do in the case of a pay site, make sure your billing options allow as many people as possible to buy, have multiple ways to pay in north America.

Most everyone has a credit card, but in other parts of the world credit cards, aren't used nearly as much in Europe. For instance, credit card usage is low. So look for billing options that will match the areas where your traffic comes from in Europe, ACH and debit cards are used a lot in Africa and other developing countries. Many people pay by mobile, do your homework and find out how people pay in the regions you get. Most of your traffic from it will make you more money. The worst thing you can do is get a visitor, have them want to buy, but since you don't have their preferred way to pay, they can't.

If you're looking for suggestions, feel free to get in touch with me via my website. Along with this is to improve your user experience, make your site attractive and easy to navigate. People have more options than ever these days. I can't tell you how many sites I go to. Even some that are owned by fairly large companies where the navigation isn't obvious to the user, you poke around for what seems like forever to do something that should be relatively easy. Keep it simple. Before you launch any changes to your site, ask your friends to go to the site and check it out.

Unfortunately, designers and tech geeks don't think like us. You need real people to look at your site for you. The same kinds of people who will be visiting your site next, make a good offer. If you're selling something and the offer, isn't good. You won't make money. It's plain and simple as that. And if your offer is to contact you to get more information, then make the offer attractive and easy to understand. If you're selling something, make buying easy, show them an easy way to buy and then leave, help them by making suggestions on what to buy.

amazon.com is the best at this. They always have suggestions on what to buy based on your buying and browsing history. They use AI to do this. There are AI engines available these days at a modest cost. Look into this. If you can, don't clutter up your site with unnecessary items, buttons, and images. Keep it as simple as possible. The best and most successful sites are the simple ones. The ones that lead you to take the action you'd like them to do. It's not that hard. Just remember when you're putting together any site, try to think through the buying process, like a human being, whatever you do, don't turn that over to your designer.

Don't just say, build me a website. What you'll get out the other end will not give you what it is. You're looking for. Give them as much direction as possible and make it easy for them to build a site for you that makes your business succeed. We'll talk about this subject more next week and next week we'll be speaking with Andra of webmaster access.
And that's it for this week's Adult Site Broker Talk. I'd once again like to thank my guest Kim Airs. Talk to you again next week on Adult Site Broker Talk. I'm Bruce Friedman.

I'm Bruce Friedman.