Adult Site Broker Talk Episode 95 with performer and podcast hostess Lily Craven

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Speaker 2 (2m 41s): Hello. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (2m 44s): Well, it's really nice to have you Lilly now. Always nice. Always nice to be had too. So MILF performer, Lily Craven has been in the industry for five years. She started as a webcam model and now she adult videos. Her niches are big toys, dirty talk, big boobs and taboo role-play or favorite niche is the extreme mommy fetish, Tommy mommy, let me hear about that. This role allows her to interact with one of her many followers.

She does build a whore custom videos and picks the customer, tells her what to say, what to do, what to wear and what toys to play with. And she makes a custom video and pictures just for them. Or most recent endeavor is hosting your podcast, phone sex with the Lily, which yours truly has been a guest on. And she interviews adult industry talent in front of, and behind the camera phone sex with Lily can be heard on Spotify anchor and now Skyhawk after dark tv.com. So Lily, and by the way, doing your podcast was so much fun.

I, Especially, especially the, the sex talk at the beginning. That was a pretty fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (4m 2s): Yeah, we did take it in a funny direction. Didn't we?

Speaker 1 (4m 5s): Yeah, I, I decided I decided to throw you, throw you anyway. Yeah, well, I do my best. I do my best. So tell me the story begin because you, you got started late. So tell me the story of how you got into the business in the first place.

Speaker 2 (4m 23s): Oh goodness. So I did start late. I started at 40 years old going through a divorce and it was somewhat my Mo well, my motivation starting was revenge on a cheating ex-husband. And so I put myself in school full time and I knew I needed a college education to work because I had been a homemaker for years.

Speaker 1 (4m 49s): They still have those.

Speaker 2 (4m 52s): Well, I was kind of a spoiled homemaker. So I was at home

Speaker 1 (4m 58s): In itself.

Speaker 2 (4m 59s): Oh, it really is. So I Def, I started selling content out of my inbox on messenger, on Facebook. And after that I caught a 90 day ban, which we all know

Speaker 1 (5m 15s): I was going to ask you how long it took you to get banned

Speaker 2 (5m 18s): Many, many times. So, yeah, I caught a 90 day one and I'm like, oh my goodness, this is my extra income that I'm, you know, bringing in money. And I'm like, what am I going to do? And one of my customers said, Hey, have you heard of webcam modeling? You know, chatter bait? And I was like chatter. So he showed me chatter bait, and I'm like, I can do that. So of course, as you know, my technology is really, really behind. So I had to learn how,

Speaker 1 (5m 48s): And you have a very good coach,

Speaker 2 (5m 53s): Thank goodness for you because I'm telling you the way I learned with chatter bait to get my devices, your little interactive toys set up. As I went to the geek squad at best buys, and I pull a lady aside and I said, I need your help because you can't ask your friends, your kids, your, you just can't ask those people. And so I started doing that and I stayed solo all that time. And then I, with the goals that I have, I felt it was time and necessary to progress into filming.

And I started that 2019. Was that the last AVN award? So 2019?

Speaker 1 (6m 34s): No, no, no, no. It was 2020 was the last one.

Speaker 2 (6m 37s): Yeah, because it's in January. So January, 2020 is when I did my first shoot and it has gone from there.

Speaker 1 (6m 45s): Wow. And it hasn't been all that long? No,

Speaker 2 (6m 48s): Not at all.

Speaker 1 (6m 50s): So what did you do before you joined the industry? You talked about being a homemaker.

Speaker 2 (6m 57s): Oh, well I was a wife and a homemaker and my ex-husband wanted me to go out to PF Chang's with my friends and have Chinese food and wear neon and SciHigh boots and keep changing my clothes all day. And so that's what I was doing before. I'm just living

Speaker 1 (7m 17s): The good life. A really tough job.

Speaker 2 (7m 20s): Yeah. It w it was, yeah. Well, I was loving it. That's why I was so angry when the rug gets pulled out from underneath. You're like, damn it. That was a pretty good life. So everything was great. We also had an oil field, trucking company and an oil field storage company that we ran. So that was fun, but,

Speaker 1 (7m 42s): Well, wait a minute. Wait, well, let me, let me stop you though. Didn't you get half of all that?

Speaker 2 (7m 47s): I did half of the business, but did I have I physically like, got it yet five years later? No, I'm working on that.

Speaker 1 (7m 56s): So the divorce is still ongoing.

Speaker 2 (7m 58s): No, it's totally over with, and it's been since 2018. I just, you can have a lien on a house and stuff like that, but that doesn't mean you have money in your pocket.

Speaker 1 (8m 9s): Oh shit.

Speaker 2 (8m 10s): So I'm working on that one. So a whole nother podcast story.

Speaker 1 (8m 15s): Okay. Yeah. Feel free. Feel free. We've got all the time you want.

Speaker 2 (8m 20s): Oh goodness. So yes, I I'm, I'm in the process of working on that, but I did receive judgment for half the business.

Speaker 1 (8m 30s): Okay. I think you need, I think you need a better lawyer or a better collector to want one of the two.

Speaker 2 (8m 37s): That's what I heard. Yes. That's where I'm at now. But I had an excellent lawyer. Just okay. It's time to collect.

Speaker 1 (8m 43s): Oh boy. I'm telling you I'll, I'll be, I'll fly out for the party from Thailand when you're ready. Cause I have a feeling, I have a feeling it's going to be a big one,

Speaker 2 (8m 54s): But it was, I hope so. But yeah, I I'm just too nice. Like if you cry to me or you say that you have a sob story, I will listen and I feel bad for people. And I just let things go by all the time because of that.

Speaker 1 (9m 12s): Don't do it on this one. I'm a

Speaker 2 (9m 13s): Softie. I'm not

Speaker 1 (9m 15s): On this one.

Speaker 2 (9m 16s): I'm not this time.

Speaker 1 (9m 19s): So how has getting into the business changed? You both good and bad.

Speaker 2 (9m 24s): I have to say when I started, I was at, as far as my self esteem, self worth was probably at the lowest I've ever been in my life. I was taken from, you know, being the happiest, I believe I've ever been. And I've had a good life in general, but down to the lowest point, the darkest point and my followers, they, they made me feel important. Like I was wanted that I was pretty, that I mattered. They took interest in my life.

They they've always been there. And it really, it pretty much saved me. I mean, I wasn't like suicidal or anything, but I was really, really low on myself and it gave me the umph to keep, to keep going to do better, to try more. And I am forever grateful for the people who have always supported me during that time when there was no one else. So it's, it's empowered me. I've become financially independent for the first time in my life.

So a lot. Yeah. It's, it's really been, I can't, I can't tell you enough what the industry has done for me as a person, just to who I am. It's brought me out of my shell. It's it's just, I know now that

Speaker 1 (10m 43s): I, you were in a shell,

Speaker 2 (10m 46s): Not yes and no. I think I've been more reserved after my divorce. A lot more reserved, just careful with who I'm around in the people that I choose to interact with. I'm much, very, very cautious. So I think, yes, I was a little bit in a shell, but most of my life, no, I was the cheerleader and outgoing.

Speaker 1 (11m 14s): Why am I not surprised? And how has the business changed? Do in a negative sense?

Speaker 2 (11m 19s): Oh, I don't know. The one thing that I would say that bothers me would be the image. I think that comes along with it. I am quite conservative when it comes to adult entertainment and I have two different beliefs. I love the industry. I love being part of it. And I there's, this is the first time in my life. I belong somewhere. Like I truly feel like I matter.

And I belong even with the people in the industry, they they're incredible. And I've always like been, even in college, it was just awkward. Like I wasn't cool. People were like, oh, I bet you, everybody would love do. And I'm like, no, not really. Like, I was like the old lady in the back of the classroom. So it's kind of funny, but I, I think there's some beliefs that I juggle back and forth with your belief system of, of that.

I think that it does affect society negatively. I think, I don't know. It's hard to explain, but I think that there's the pros and cons of the industry and that's where I go back and forth in my own head. And I do talk out of two sides of my face, you know, quite often it's, they're like, wait a minute, you just said this and I'm saying this and they kind of clash.

Speaker 1 (12m 47s): So you're saying what you're saying is your, so your, your conservative beliefs kinda clash against what you do for a living.

Speaker 2 (12m 58s): Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13m 2s): Interesting.

Speaker 2 (13m 3s): And it's not necessarily my conservative. Yeah. It is your belief system that creates it. But I am a person that, for some reason I have a wall like built up in that and I don't really think it's a wall that I have any explanation of why it's there, but on the set, you know, pushing yourself a little bit further and stuff, I am just so reserved when shooting, I I'm very monogamous. Like I'm just a monogamous person. So going, you know, being with different people, it's just not as comfortable as I wish it would be.

I want to be a slut. I would try anything to be a slut. Like I really, really try. So

Speaker 1 (13m 48s): Take some time. I would imagine based on your being married for, I don't know how many years,

Speaker 2 (13m 54s): Well, which one.

Speaker 1 (13m 57s): Okay. But,

Speaker 2 (13m 59s): But the last one was five years.

Speaker 1 (14m 1s): Okay. Mommy being married for a while and being monogamous God, I can't even say the goddamn word. So being that way, I would imagine then getting into an industry where you're having sex with different partners. I would imagine that would be a little difficult.

Speaker 2 (14m 25s): Yeah. But doesn't everybody kind of, oh, I guess they don't start off like that because quite a few people I know in the industry are already swingers or they're sexually, like, they are just so free spirited. Like I envy that when I see it, I'm just like, why can't I just relax and like allow that to happen or have fun. And, and I think there's things that a dark clouds that hang over me like disease and stuff. Like I can't get it out of my head.

So I think it affects me. And I don't want anyone to see me like per se, sledding around, you know, but yet I want to be a slut so I can know. I think it's just the way you were your belief system. I think it conflicts with what I would, I believe, or I thought I believed in,

Speaker 1 (15m 19s): Maybe they have classes for such things

Speaker 2 (15m 21s): I need. I need, I was going to say, I need Jesus for no one.

Speaker 1 (15m 25s): I need some slut classes. I'm sure they I'm sure they teach him somewhere,

Speaker 2 (15m 31s): Please. You know, if they did, I will T I will be the first one to sign up,

Speaker 1 (15m 36s): Google it.

Speaker 2 (15m 39s): I'm going to watch, I'm going to get back to you on that one.

Speaker 1 (15m 42s): Police do

Speaker 2 (15m 44s): What? 1 0 1.

Speaker 1 (15m 46s): Hey, there you go. I'm sure they teach it every fine university. So, So how has the university, the thing you see I'm T I've got university on my mind. So, so besides what you've already mentioned, how has the industry been beneficial to you?

Speaker 2 (16m 7s): I would say something. I definitely benefit from the self-employment. I never imagined in my life, like I'm from San Diego. You grew up there. People are not self-employed there you work for people. I currently live in Colorado where everybody is self-employed they all have their own businesses.

Speaker 1 (16m 29s): Interesting.

Speaker 2 (16m 30s): All, not everybody, but quite a big chunk. We are a self-employed community entrepreneurs. So just learning that I can actually operate my own business, be my own boss is it's incredible. It's overwhelming. It's very overwhelming. It's a lot of hit and miss I self teach myself everything. So if things don't quite sound right in the beginning, it's because it's because I taught myself.

Speaker 1 (17m 2s): But

Speaker 2 (17m 3s): Yeah, you just have to keep trying and learning. It's very intimidating. I would say self-employment is in the industry. And also people trying to take advantage of you is constant. Yeah. For me, I attract, I think those kinds of people and I'm well aware of it. So I definitely thank goodness I'm aware of it. So I have to, I'm like a magnet for these kinds of people, but I, I I've managed to stay pretty safe.

Speaker 1 (17m 35s): What's

Speaker 2 (17m 35s): Good. You know, meaning I don't feel like I'm going to be physically attacked, but I'm just saying the scams are people taking advantage of or stuff like that. It happens quite a bit and it starts to happen in front of my eyes and I catch it, you know? Wow.

Speaker 1 (17m 50s): Well, at least, at least at least run Jeremy's behind bars.

Speaker 2 (17m 55s): Yeah, no shit. I know. Can you believe

Speaker 1 (17m 58s): That

Speaker 2 (17m 60s): The things they used to do back then?

Speaker 1 (18m 2s): It wasn't that long ago. Wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 2 (18m 6s): No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (18m 7s): So you got your degree during the pandemic. What field was it in? Obviously wasn't in, in being a slut. So what field was it in and why?

Speaker 2 (18m 19s): Kind of, it was no, professors did not know that did not know that they were teaching me marketing management, which is my degree for the adult industry. They had no idea. So

Speaker 1 (18m 34s): No idea what you were going to, they had no idea what you were going to do with it, right?

Speaker 2 (18m 38s): No, no, I didn't. I, one time had a professor say, why are you sleeping? Like at her, I was 9:00 AM. I'm sleeping on her desk, you know, during her class. And she's like, what do you do for a living? Or what do you do at night? And I'm right. If I tell you I have to kill you, like I can not tell you. So I definitely, there was only one professor. She was retiring and at the end of the paper, I, it was my final paper. I revealed what I did. And it was, I think it was a small business class.

So we had to create, so I ended up saying what I did and she wrote back, this is the most profound paper I've ever read. And, and that was it. And then she retired. So nobody knew what I did.

Speaker 1 (19m 22s): Yeah. Sometimes it's better to keep it to yourself, especially in academia,

Speaker 2 (19m 27s): I believe so Most definitely that would not have been received. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19m 33s): How was it getting your degree during the, the pandemic? It must have had some challenges.

Speaker 2 (19m 40s): Well, I actually was lucky enough that I graduated right at the beginning spring. So I, when it was, it May, 2020 is when I graduated. So I never hit the pandemic. Like as far as not being able to go to school. I think my final classes, that darn accounting class, I took five times that was online. So I finished that one out and that was it for me, luckily, but I didn't get to walk.

And that was, you know, a disappointment. It, I, I envisioned me receiving my diploma and that was a lot of good motivation for me while, you know, having my kids watch or my

Speaker 1 (20m 24s): Watch

Speaker 2 (20m 24s): Me accomplish this. And that was a big deal for me. And then instead it just blinked on the monitor screen real quick and it was gone.

Speaker 1 (20m 33s): That sucks. It's such, it's really, it's such a wonderful moment for everyone. But I would imagine as a mom, I, it would, would have been an even more proud moment.

Speaker 2 (20m 42s): Yeah. And you know, that happened to one of my kids was a senior, so it's actually valedictorian. So he

Speaker 1 (20m 50s): Ended

Speaker 2 (20m 50s): Up, yeah. They ended up doing months later, like in July, they did a ceremony outside on the football field. So, so grateful that he got that opportunity, but I got to be there for that, so,

Speaker 1 (21m 4s): Oh, that's lovely. That's lovely. So are you in a relationship or do you date?

Speaker 2 (21m 11s): No, no, no. I, after my divorce, I, I decided to push, dating aside and just take care of me while I'm building my business. I started to realize this could like, cause like difficulties fading because

Speaker 1 (21m 30s): I,

Speaker 2 (21m 31s): Yeah. I don't want someone who is, oh, okay, well, oh gosh, here's the conflicting language.

Speaker 1 (21m 40s): I don't want someone who's

Speaker 2 (21m 42s): Okay with what I do, but I will not stop for anyone, But there's a character and a personality that comes along with someone who is just fine with it. And I'm to each their own

Speaker 1 (21m 57s): Almost pimp, like,

Speaker 2 (21m 58s): Gosh, that's a hard one to agree with. But

Speaker 1 (22m 3s): We, we w in our industry, we call ourselves sex workers.

Speaker 2 (22m 7s): Yes. I see. That's where I just don't have a problem with the other people doing it. And if there was that person that could truly come in and be supportive, but I don't want, I want to be monogamous with that person. I want him to be monogamous with me. I don't want it to be a pass that he could go do what he wants. I don't think anyone would understand that it truly, truly is work for me. There is no, this is not about sex.

It's part of the job. So I don't believe that I, and if I get someone in the industry, I don't want that. I don't want someone sleeping with everyone. Just for

Speaker 1 (22m 50s): Me, just

Speaker 2 (22m 52s): For me. It doesn't, it's not the, what I envisioned on a partner. So what I do is I just completely avoid it. I just don't date at all.

Speaker 1 (23m 1s): Yeah. That makes for an interesting question. How is sex different for you when you're performing?

Speaker 2 (23m 10s): Oh, it's very different.

Speaker 1 (23m 11s): Okay.

Speaker 2 (23m 12s): Well, sometimes you have, you have chemistry, but not necessarily a connection, right? You are a little bit it's, it's so staged quite often, you know, it's like, give me two minutes of this. Gimme me, you know, blow him for 30 seconds. Bend over, do this point at the camera, open up. It's just like, it's just moves.

Speaker 1 (23m 34s): Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23m 35s): It's almost easier to do than sex in real life because I don't have sex in real life. I just don't.

Speaker 1 (23m 43s): I

Speaker 2 (23m 44s): Put it on the set. I got a lot. I fuck myself every day. Can I cuss?

Speaker 1 (23m 49s): Yeah, I did. Oh,

Speaker 2 (23m 50s): Okay. Okay. So yeah, I do myself every day on webcamming. I'm chatter bait, literally 40. So I mean,

Speaker 1 (23m 59s): You should be plenty. You should be plenty horny at that, at that age. Yes,

Speaker 2 (24m 3s): I am. I'm in my prime women in their forties are like,

Speaker 1 (24m 8s): I know. I know.

Speaker 2 (24m 9s): So, yeah. It's great, But I

Speaker 1 (24m 12s): Don't need 45, so,

Speaker 2 (24m 15s): Oh, so my that's see she's frisky. Huh?

Speaker 1 (24m 18s): Huh? She can't. She can be, I'm not going to go into any witness the same anymore, but

Speaker 2 (24m 29s): Yes,

Speaker 1 (24m 29s): Indeed. So, so tell me about your podcast. How did you come up with the idea?

Speaker 2 (24m 38s): Oh gosh. Okay. So I was asked by a station to stand in and do some interviews with some porn stars, just sort of to help him take off his workload. And so I said, okay, I can do that. I started interviewing some porn stars and then I went, gosh, this is so boring. And it's not because of my guests were boring. It's just, I wasn't bringing what a good sounding podcaster or an entertainer can w I wasn't bringing it.

Speaker 1 (25m 12s): That's surprising. That's surprising. Cause you sure do now.

Speaker 2 (25m 15s): Oh, goodness. Yeah. But see, I'm starting to get a little more comfortable. Cause by the way, I've never even listened to a podcast in my life until after I started these interviews.

Speaker 1 (25m 27s): I hadn't, I hadn't listened to many either, but then again, you know, I have a re you know, I have a radio background, so that kind of,

Speaker 2 (25m 34s): I didn't even know the difference. I didn't know what a podcast and radio was. I just had, I came in this completely blind. So I was just recording with a hand, held recorder with a speakerphone and just asking the questions. I would send it off to the station. He would edit, posted. I didn't even listen to my old, my own stuff. And then I was like, okay, this is boring. So I was thinking, this is audio only. And what sells well, sex sells and I'm on the phone.

So why not have phone sex with my guests?

Speaker 1 (26m 9s): Perfect.

Speaker 2 (26m 10s): And yeah, so I have phone sex unknowingly in the beginning that my guests don't know until right beforehand. So they don't prepare for it. Right. And we, I just have fun. I haven't had anyone run away yet.

Speaker 1 (26m 26s): Yeah. It's a, it's a blast. That's a blast. I had, I had a very good time and I had a good time with you trying to freak you out. So anyway, So what are the challenges and what are the benefits for you of doing a podcast?

Speaker 2 (26m 42s): Oh, well the challenges are the whole podcast in general. Just the, I would say the technology behind it, but once like there's so much information available out there online that you can teach yourself. We were talking about this earlier. You definitely can teach yourself. It's just intimidating. But once you know, I, I dove in when I would, oh, I didn't even finish. So I, with the radio station, I ended up going off independently.

And, and then when I did that, I was like, oh shit, I gotta learn how to edit like overnight. And I stayed up all night until I figured out how to splice it. Cut it, split it and get a code.

Speaker 1 (27m 29s): We'll talk more after this, after this interview. Cause I have, I have a feeling you're a overthinking, but anyway. Yeah. No, no, not clueless. Just overthinking it. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (27m 40s): Probably. I tend to do that a lot. Yeah. So, So yeah. So then when I did that, I, you know, branched off and I'm glad I did it. It gave me the kick in the butt to do it on my own. So I have control over it when it's airing, how it sounds like I just had no control over it and I do now. So when it's, when I say it's my show, it truly is my show. No one else. I'm not depending on anyone to put it out there. If there's a mistake, it's mine And it wasn't the force, so.

Speaker 1 (28m 14s): Okay. All right. So back to, so back to challenges and benefits.

Speaker 2 (28m 19s): Okay. So the challenge is definitely just learning really, really quick, how to do it being thrown in the pool without the life jacket. And then, but I learned really well that way I just I'm good. I'm good with that. The challenges and the what else?

Speaker 1 (28m 39s): Well, the challenges and the benefits. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28m 42s): The benefits would be, I am networking like crazy. I have met so many incredible people that I didn't even know exists. I don't watch porn. So, and I really never have, You don't need me. You've got the 45 year old at home,

Speaker 4 (29m 3s): But,

Speaker 1 (29m 4s): Or it's, or as I sat on the, or as I said on the podcast, I've never needed porn. I live in Thailand,

Speaker 2 (29m 13s): So I don't live in Thailand and I don't watch porn. So I think that when I meet these people, I don't even know that these parts of the industry exists. And when you meet so many people, cause I interviewed behind the camera as well. And, and it really, when you, you just see all the components that bring it all together and it's, it's really neat. I've met such great people. I can't even say they're.

They are just their characters. They are full of personalities. They're genuine free spirited. More than any class of people I could ever I've ever met besides the swingers. They're fun. But the,

Speaker 1 (30m 0s): Yes he had, yes. He had coral and on That's how we connected was, was through coral.

Speaker 2 (30m 10s): And I went to a swingers event with her in Miami.

Speaker 1 (30m 14s): Oh God.

Speaker 2 (30m 15s): I'll tell you. Whoo

Speaker 1 (30m 17s): She's. She is a, she is a first-class doll. I've had her on twice and we're fine. We're going to get to meet, I think in either LA or Vegas. So I'm really looking forward to that. I'm going to, I'm going to meet you there too. I think.

Speaker 2 (30m 32s): Yes. I'm going to be, I plan on being there and it will be Carolyn and I are like, we stick together at these events. So she, I really she's like an idol to me. She's a mentor. Someone I look up to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30m 46s): And you guys have to have a lot, you too have a lot in common, starting in the business, late being moms having been married. Yeah. It's, it's pretty amazing. I don't think those things are that unusual. There are a pretty good amount of women. Vicky vet started late in the business. Vicky's been on my podcast and Vicky is, Vicky is wonderful. Yes.

Speaker 2 (31m 14s): They're just amazing people. I think, I think this older, it's really nice that, that, you know, MILF is the thing. Cause everybody loves the MILF. And so

Speaker 1 (31m 24s): The movie

Speaker 2 (31m 26s): Pretty much like there isn't anyone that doesn't like us, but I think we're being recognized as women who have completed like the child years and the families and now it's time to take care of us. And I think there's just a sexiness about it. Right. Life experience, sexual experience, we just bring it and we really do. We do. And

Speaker 1 (31m 52s): Okay. So who's been your most interesting interview so far, but of course, except besides me, besides me, who's been your most interesting interview so far. You can't, you can't say me. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (32m 5s): Oh,

Speaker 1 (32m 6s): Okay.

Speaker 2 (32m 8s): Oh,

Speaker 1 (32m 9s): Okay. Now tell us the truth.

Speaker 2 (32m 11s): I have to say, I recently did the ball though. One, which I hadn't mentioned to you.

Speaker 1 (32m 17s): Yeah. I saw that video. You sent me. Oh my God. Yes.

Speaker 2 (32m 22s): And so that one, I have to say, I liked it because first he wasn't even really industry. He's just invented this in his own bedroom and then it's a product. That's the first of its kind, which is something fuck someone with, with your balls.

Speaker 1 (32m 39s): I encourage everybody to, to Google it's B a L D O. And

Speaker 2 (32m 46s): We'll

Speaker 1 (32m 46s): Be right. There are two Wells and balls, right? B a L L D O. And gosh, I should know that I have them and watch that video. My only, my only criticism as a, as a marketing guy at heart is it's a little long for a, for a, a marketing video, but it's frigging hilarious.

Speaker 2 (33m 7s): It's almost like, have you seen the Squatty potty video?

Speaker 1 (33m 10s): No, but I can imagine.

Speaker 2 (33m 12s): Yeah. I think they did that on that. Or I saw it on the Howard stern show, but it was the Squatty potty. And it was like just classical areas. It's really long like that too. But yeah, so that product, I would have to say, because he literally invented this out of the air, you know, in his bedroom, he's not industry related. He wasn't, and the product is the first of its kind. It's having sex with your balls. And it addresses things like impotence.

It's just something different. And I, and he's sending me one that I get to try out and I don't have balls, but I'm going to find it.

Speaker 1 (33m 53s): I was about, I was about to ask you about that. When you, you said he was sending you one,

Speaker 2 (33m 58s): I'm going to, I'm going to find a set of balls. I'm really hoping for Jay Mac, but that's another show too. I really hoping for him, but I'm waiting for it to come. And then when I find some balls, I'm going to make the first porn. Cause no, one's done a porn with the Baldo.

Speaker 1 (34m 15s): There you go. Why that'll be good for them? That'll be good for them. Yeah. I'll have to talk to somebody who used them first ad. And I'm a little careful with my balls, but anyway, okay.

Speaker 2 (34m 26s): That's what he said. A lot of people are worried about the sensitivity, but anyways, okay. I'll report back

Speaker 1 (34m 32s): Big fricking time. Okay. So you interview a lot of behind the camera talent. Why is that?

Speaker 2 (34m 39s): Because they, I think are not recognized enough. They are really the backbone of it all. They're the foundation, the backbone, they, what makes it work? Your lights, your cameras, your writers, your brokers, your just, everything comes together. And then the person in front of the camera is recognized, but it's because of all of them that they're there.

So I would definitely have to say yes, I think that they're not noticed enough. And they're fascinating. The things they do, how they get into the industry, Blows my mind. Some of them, the stories are just, they're great. They're really, really great. How and most of us fall into it somehow.

Speaker 1 (35m 30s): Yeah. Well, yeah, absolutely. I sure did. So you attended three exotic expos, sheer. You referred to it earlier. What role did you take on and did you do any shooting there?

Speaker 2 (35m 45s): I got to do media this year. So I went for the station that I was, that I was on and I got to go around interviewing people at their booths. I've had a booth before at exotica. I've, I've been just a person walking around and being media was, it was just great. I just met so many people. I got to talk with them more than, than walking around.

Like you get to ask them questions and Interesting things about themselves or what they're doing there. And then also, well, yeah, you get to talk to people in, in depth a lot more. So I really, really enjoyed that. I, I can't wait to do it again.

Speaker 1 (36m 35s): Absolutely. So what's the most bizarre request you've had from a fan.

Speaker 2 (36m 40s): So I have, I don't know. I tell you, I attract like the most amazing people, but for some reason they tend to want me to watch their, whatever their fetishes. And they, I assume it's because I'm quite animated. Like it's real when I'm in shock. And I am in shock quite a few times, but I would have to say the CBT guy, cock and ball torture would be, he wanted me to watch him shove 15.

Q-tips down the, to the tip of his Dick. And he, he did one at a time and he used his hand sanitizer, a whole bottle on it. And he, the last time he started a light it on fire. I was like, stop, stop. Can't do this.

Speaker 1 (37m 37s): That just makes know that just, that just makes me cringe and, and feel and pain. Just the way you describe it.

Speaker 2 (37m 47s): The nail file was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (37m 50s): Fuck

Speaker 2 (37m 52s): The pliers. Those were good.

Speaker 1 (37m 55s): Yeah,

Speaker 2 (37m 55s): It was, it's pretty, it's a lot to watch and it's, it's hard because I don't like to see someone hurt themselves. So that that's a conflict too, for me. Like when the fire came in, I was done. I said, no, don't do it. And he did. He did. He did. I did on fire actually three times, but I was like stop and he stopped

Speaker 1 (38m 17s): God. So

Speaker 2 (38m 19s): Yeah, that would be my well there's one more.

Speaker 1 (38m 22s): Okay.

Speaker 2 (38m 23s): There's one more. So the weirdest request would have been, he wanted me to pee on the floor and then mop it up with my tits and be a human mop. I

Speaker 1 (38m 36s): Ah, yeah. Well that sounds a little gross, Scott. Okay.

Speaker 2 (38m 39s): I just don't do things that are like humiliating or degrading. I humiliate the crap out of someone else, but I won't.

Speaker 1 (38m 48s): Well, yeah, I need to have it. Then he'd have a video of it and he'd probably got bloated and yeah. So, no, it's not a good idea. You don't want to do, you don't want to do, you don't want to do anything that other people can watch that you'll be humiliated by porn is great, but

Speaker 2 (39m 3s): Eating ass.

Speaker 1 (39m 4s): Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39m 5s): Well I know now.

Speaker 1 (39m 7s): Okay. I get it. I get it. Wouldn't be, Wouldn't be, wouldn't be my cup. Wouldn't be my cup of tea there. Trust me. I prefer to eat other things. So if money, if money wasn't an obstacle, what role would you be playing in the industry?

Speaker 2 (39m 25s): Oh, I would definitely be shooting my, like producing and being my own studio because I'm full of ideas. The ideas come to me constantly. So, and at the end, they're good ideas. I know they are. I just can't bring them to life often. I give them away because I want to see it happen, but I can't usually it's finances. Why you can't bring something to life. So yeah, I put that.

Yes, but that doesn't mean tomorrow. I can't.

Speaker 1 (40m 0s): Yeah. That's that's, that's certainly something to strive for. Isn't it?

Speaker 2 (40m 4s): Oh, most definitely. Definitely. But there's just so many ideas. They come to me constantly

Speaker 1 (40m 13s): Write them down and keep them don't give them away.

Speaker 2 (40m 17s): That's exactly what I do. Maybe when I get

Speaker 1 (40m 19s): Giving away. Exactly. Cause giving away. Good. Well, don't invest all of it in our business. Giving away, giving away the old, the old joke is I, in fact, I read this God. I was down in Cabo and it was, what did they call it? Oh, it was the, it was a great in the gringo Gazette. I'll never forget. And they had in the green Gazette, they asked a question, how do you get $1 million in Cabo? And the answer was you invest $2 million in a restaurant.

So I think the same, same could very well hold true for our industry and production.

Speaker 2 (40m 58s): Anyway.

Speaker 1 (41m 1s): So tell me something about you that most people don't know.

Speaker 2 (41m 4s): I've never had a cavity in my life.

Speaker 1 (41m 7s): Okay. Well, you, you would have been great for a crest commercial, but maybe you can, maybe you can go a little further than that,

Speaker 2 (41m 15s): But, but, but, but I, but I, I do go to the dentist too, so it's not, cause I don't go. I'm a very much a home body. I'm loam a lot. I work probably 15 to 17 hours a day, online, seven days a week. It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (41m 36s): It is.

Speaker 2 (41m 37s): And non-line meaning, you know, calls and all kinds of stuff. But I would have to say that I am a very much a home body. I'm not a partier. I don't go out. I have a very select group of friends. When I go to the events, I do let loose and have a lot of fun, but most people would think that I was a porn star, not The typical, you know, slut out and slut, meaning a good in a good way.

Speaker 1 (42m 11s): Oh, well of course. Is there, is there a, is there a bad way?

Speaker 2 (42m 17s): No, there's no bad way to see.

Speaker 1 (42m 19s): Great.

Speaker 2 (42m 20s): So, but I don't. Yeah. Like I said earlier, I don't date anything like that. So I'm pretty reserved in at home and I keep to myself, but, but I have everybody on mine. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. If you have like, I don't know anyone where I live, except for the mechanic that ripped me off. That would be pretty much it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42m 43s): And I guess you won't be inviting him for Thanksgiving. So

Speaker 2 (42m 49s): I'm like, dude, are we still doing the, like back in the day? Like, are we still doing this mechanic woman thing? Like, come on now.

Speaker 1 (42m 56s): Yeah. Believe it or not it, believe it or not. It still exists. And the hilarious thing is I know nothing about cars and they've never tried to rip me off. But

Speaker 2 (43m 5s): Yeah, no, cause you're not a woman. Your boobs aren't big enough.

Speaker 1 (43m 8s): Yeah. Well I got pretty nice food, so yeah. You'll see when you meet me. Well, This isn't video, this isn't video. So

Speaker 2 (43m 20s): I'll go ahead.

Speaker 1 (43m 21s): So where can people find you?

Speaker 2 (43m 23s): So you can find me on Twitter at Lily Craven and it's L I L Y C R a V E N. XXX. And you can see my website, which is Lily Craven, xxx.com. Facebook. I actually run a pay-to-play Facebook group still for five years. It's called camp morning wood, but we still content out of our inbox and you can contact me there directly. And I will interact with you and I can do, you know, video chats make you custom videos, sell pre-made videos, you name it, sell panties.

I do it all. And that is Lilly dot Craven, 40 and chatter bait. Lily 40.

Speaker 1 (44m 13s): There you go. And then you'll do, you'll do everything. But you won't mop with your tits?

Speaker 2 (44m 18s): No, not that I just didn't want it, but I passed it on to someone else and she did a fabulous job.

Speaker 1 (44m 25s): She did. She did.

Speaker 2 (44m 27s): She did. I always had, if I don't do something, I will find someone that can do it.

Speaker 1 (44m 32s): Well, Lilly I'd really like to thank you for being our guest today on the adult side broker talk. And I hope we'll get a chance to do this again really soon.

Speaker 2 (44m 40s): I hope we see each other this year or wait. It's not this year 2022.

Speaker 1 (44m 47s): I will see you in a couple of months.

Speaker 2 (44m 50s): Yes. I look forward to it. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (44m 53s): It's a pleasure to have you. Once again, my broker tip today is part two of how to buy a site. Last week, we discussed first deciding the type of site you want to buy, then establishing what your budget is next. It's time to look for your new website. So where do you look? Well, adult site broker is a great place to start. We always have a nice variety of website and non website properties for sale. But if there's a particular type of site you want, we can also act as your buyer's broker to help you find just the right site.

Other places to look are boards like biz.net and GF y.com. But to be completely honest, unless what you're looking for is a really low end property. You're probably not going to find what you're looking for there. Of course you could contact site owners yourself, but take it from someone who does this for a living. It's a major hassle, and it can be really hard to even find out who owns the site. Almost all adult sites use who is privacy from their domain registrar. So when you send them an email, it will be to an anonymous address.

And in most cases, the emails aren't returned. We have a huge database of sellers and generally know who owns what. And if it's a website of note, if we don't know who owns it, we can always find out, we'll talk about this subject more next week. And next week we'll be speaking with Leya Tanit of pineapple support. And that's it for this week's Adult Site Broker Talk. I'd once again like to thank my guest Lily Craven. Talk to you again next week on Adult Site Broker Talk. I'm Bruce Friedman.