Adult Site Broker Talk Episode 119 with performer Coralyn Jewel

Adult Site Broker Talk Episode 119 with performer Coralyn Jewel

Bruce, the adult site broker, host of Adult Site Broker Talk and CEO of Adult Site Broker, the leading adult website broker, who is known as the company to sell adult sites, is pleased to welcome adult performer Coralyn Jewel.

Coralyn is a # 1 international best-selling author of the book when the Ice Melts: The Story of Coralyn Jewel, host of the Hankie Pankie Podcast, as well as a working porn star, retired competitive athlete, porn director, swinger club owner, fitness trainer, wedding planner, talent manager, voice-over actress, coach, and motivational speaker. She will also soon star in a documentary about her life.

You can follow Coralyn on Twitter @SweetblueCJ

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Only $1.75 million. Now time for this week's interview my guest today by popular demand on adult site. Broker talk is coral and jewel for the third time. Corallin thanks for being back with us today on adult site. Broker talk,

Speaker 2 (2m 33s): Thank you for having me back today. How are you?

Speaker 1 (2m 35s): I'm good. How you doing?

Speaker 2 (2m 37s): I'm good. Good.

Speaker 1 (2m 38s): Now Corallin is a number one international best selling author of the book when the ice melts the story of coral and jewel, as well as a working porn star, retired competitive athlete porn director, swing club owner. This is about where I usually run outta breath, fitness trainer, wedding planner, talent manager, voiceover actress, coach, and motivational speaker. And I'm sure I've probably missed a few now. Corland is the epitome of a strong, powerful female entrepreneur. Follow her coaching training session, speaking engagements and book signing schedule on her newly launched site, Corin as well as social media.

Corallin also has a very popular podcast, the hanky hanky podcast, which I've actually been a guest on. You can find it at not surprisingly hanky Pany and now she's lead spokes model for a new adult social media platform. Pinter's that's spelled P I N X S T E R S. So I'm always tired after doing that bio.

Speaker 3 (3m 45s): I don't blame you.

Speaker 1 (3m 47s): So, so Corland since publishing your book, what have you been up to the past couple years?

Speaker 3 (3m 53s): Oh, goodness. I mean all, everything that you just said, you know, I published my book. I'm about to really, I'm getting ready to publish a second book, right. Turning the first book into a documentary, and then let's see. And then I've just been really focusing on building a new website and putting together my coaching packages and traveling and doing my seminars. I'm busy.

Speaker 1 (4m 14s): You've been traveling a lot too.

Speaker 3 (4m 16s): I have, I have, I went to the, for exotica last year and I'm scheduled to go to them again this year. Wow. I've just completed Chicago and Miami, I believe is next month. Let's see. I've done. XBI gosh, I can't even think XBI was just happened like two weeks ago. And then I was at X three, which is like part of the XBI and then right. I was at the Y not convention. So yes, I can't remember where I've been traveling anymore.

Speaker 1 (4m 39s): Right. That doesn't surprise me based on all the, based on all the, the travel you've been doing. And I should tell people we're recording this at the end of may and it will be running a few months from now. Now tell us a little bit about your second book and when it will be available.

Speaker 3 (4m 57s): So, okay. So my first book, a lot of people would come to me and say they really enjoyed the first book, but they wished that I had put more detail regarding swinging and things that happened at the swingers club that I own. And then sometimes people would say to me, they wish there was more stories about the brothel or more stories about the, about porn. And so what I decided to do is each book is gonna now be a series. That's gonna focus on just one aspect of the adult world. So this one is focusing on everything that I've experienced and seen as a participant in the swinger lifestyle community, as well as running my own community, which I started in 2012.

So it's talking about everything from the good, the bad, the ugly, the lawsuits, the staff, all that kinda stuff.

Speaker 1 (5m 41s): Now tell me, I mean, you must be able to relate and maybe you can give us a little bit of a preview, some stories that, that you've experienced in, in this swinger's lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (5m 56s): Okay. Well, so what I, what I try to do is when I'm coaching people, or when I'm doing my podcast or my articles or my book, it's everything that I'm, you know, I want it to be an education. So it's, it's a learning. So I want people to learn and walk away with something. So, you know what I, the book talks about, I'll give you an example, the book we'll talk. One of the stories I talk about is a couple who they were constantly having fights at my events. And so they've been married 30 years and my security was constantly coming to me and saying, you know, Corland, we've got another argument that needs to be broken up and I'd have to go over there and, you know, ask them what the problem was and tell them to, you know, fast hold the drama until they got home.

And I finally told them that they were not welcome back at my events until they did a coaching session with me, cuz I had to get to the bottom of what the deal was. Wow. And after we had, we had six sessions, we had one together, two alone with each of them and then, you know, back together. And what I came to the conclusion was was that she was very shy. And so in order for her to come out of her shell, she would drink alcohol. And sometimes over-indulge in it where he was like Mr. Social butterfly, but he would push her and put her into positions that were uncomfortable. So they'd be in the jacuzzi and he'd say, oh, go ahead, go touch my wife, touch my wife.

And she'd say, please, don't like, just do, don't do that to me. Don't give permission to touch me. And he's like, oh, you like it, you like it. And so he realized what he was doing wrong and she realized it, you know, the overindulging. And so they both made an adjustment. And about six months later, they were at an event with me. We were sitting in the jacuzzi, hanging out and there was a couple sitting across from us. And the couple the girl was like, I'm brand new. I wanna ride your motor bunny Corland but I'm, you know, I don't wanna do it with people around. And I said, no problem, when you're ready, you know, I'll go and I'll show you how to use it privately. So as soon as she was ready, she says, okay, Colin, I'm ready. So the husband says everybody, my wife's gonna go ride the motor buddy.

Let's go watch her. And the other couple that I coached, looked at me and he goes, oh my God, he's me and my wife's her. And I go, exactly. That's what you used to do. So, you know, I was a good learning lesson. So I, I put stories like that in my book, you know?

Speaker 1 (7m 58s): Wow. So the counseling obviously really helped.

Speaker 3 (8m 3s): Yes. Yeah. And they're very happy. They're very happy together. And that's, I recommend counseling for almost anybody. Who's either going to get involved in the lifestyle or if you're in it, but you guys are already having issues, you know, then you need to, you need to get to the bottom of those quickly because it's not supposed to be to save your marriage. That's not what it's there for. It's supposed to enhance and add excitement, but you've gotta be careful cuz you're playing with fire. If you don't play the right way, you'll get burned. So

Speaker 1 (8m 28s): Yeah. I mean, are there some people who get into the lifestyle who shouldn't

Speaker 3 (8m 34s): Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, there's people that get into the lifestyle because they think that this is the only way to save their marriage because you know, they, they either have cheated or have thoughts of cheating. There's people that get into the lifestyle. A lot of the wrong reasons, you know, there's so many wrong reasons, but then there's right. Reasons too. But you've gotta know, you've gotta know how to navigate your way through. I just coached somebody today. Who's interested him and his wife 14 years married. And so, you know, we, we go through the warning signs that they need to be, they need to know because when I got into the lifestyle and I'm ultimately a divorce because of it, my husband and I were married and we got involved in it and that's because nobody taught us the wording signs and we didn't really know the rules.

We didn't know the etiquette. And so we screwed up.

Speaker 1 (9m 20s): Yeah. Do you, do you find often that one partner or another kind of pushes the other into it?

Speaker 3 (9m 30s): Yes, I do see that. Not, not so often. Okay. But it seems to be the couples that having are having the issues. Those seem to be the ones that when I get down to the bottom of it, the wife's just doing it so that, you know, she's to please her husband or vice versa. But also there's so many different variations and aspects of being involved in the swinger lifestyle community. It's not just about going and having sex with another couple or another person there's, you know, there's Vos and exhibitionist and stuff like that.

So that's another thing that I teach couples is just because you wanna embark on this, that you, you might not know what you like and you, you're not gonna know until, you know, fantasy meets reality. And if you don't like what, you know, what that fantasy was, then maybe there's something else in it for you. Like just the open-mindedness or something like that. So,

Speaker 1 (10m 20s): So do, do you find that a lot of people are like really surprised what they find when they, when they go to their first swingers party?

Speaker 3 (10m 29s): Yes. Yes. So especially depending on which you know, which, which, which event you're going to, which part of your community, the, the misconception is that people really, really do feel like it's an open free for all, you know, just couples going and there's just people having sex everywhere. And that's kind of what society's made us think. And that's why, you know, society downplays, swingers and lifestyles and such bad people, you know? Yeah. And the fact of the matter is the way I describe it is imagine that you're going to a wedding and there's DJ and there's dancing and there's decorations and there's party favors and there's catering, but then there just happens to be play rooms.

And if you wanna go and you know, be intimate and play, then you have the opportunity to go and do so.

Speaker 1 (11m 8s): Hmm. I mean, do a lot of people not partake in the sex part at all? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11m 12s): Yep. A lot of people don't a lot of people, I think there's, you know, I've got, I've got about 20,000, I think members in my community right now. And I would be comfortable to say maybe, you know, a little less than half don't don't don't participate in anything sexual at the events. Sometimes people too, they just like to go and meet people there and then they take it to, you know, a private area like their hotel room or something. Sure.

Speaker 1 (11m 33s): Now, now what, what do you mean by your community? Are you talking about connected to your club?

Speaker 3 (11m 39s): Nope, I'm talking about, so over since I started my club in 2012, in order to attend an event, they must have a profile on my website and they must have a valid profile. Like they have to have a membership paid for, to it when they're attending an event, if their membership runs out and they're not attending an event, they still have access to the website. So over the course of, since 2012, there's 20,000 app, 20,000 profiles are on my site. Wow.

Speaker 1 (12m 3s): That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (12m 4s): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12m 5s): So, so what was the reason you decided to do a documentary? I mean, maybe you can share a bit about it and when you expect it to be available.

Speaker 3 (12m 15s): Okay. So the documentary has been an absolute nightmare. In all honesty, I was approached by a director from New York on Facebook that actually said that he'd read my book and really, really thought that I should put it into a documentary. Okay. And I said, I was not interested that I just didn't have the finances and I didn't have the time to dedicate to that. And so we made an agreement that he said, you know, if you can do this for me, for my documentary, I will help. I will edit your documentary and I will help you and be there with you through the whole filming process.

So the past two years, Jay crew was my, he operated the camera and we filmed, you know, different scenes throughout LA. One of my old ice skating students. She plays me as a younger Colan. My music producer is also play. He plays my husband. And then a lot of people that are in the movie or in my documentary were the actual people that they're playing themselves. And then they also take place at the, like the dance club, the strip club that I first started dancing at. It's still there. We filled it there and the managers still there and he was played himself in, in the documentary.

So now we are in editing and, but we've gone through three editors because what happened was the guy that made this whole promise to me, backed out, backed out. So, yeah. And so it's been a, and then somebody else said they would do it and then they backed out. So I'm on my third editor right now. And I, again, he's a good friend of mine, so I told him, please, don't back out and it's all about, so the documentary is, it's really based on my book for the most part. Right. Except that the only difference is that we're now adding in more detail and, and we're, you know, really trying to get across the, the significance of the different events and how they occurred.

Speaker 1 (13m 56s): Hmm. Okay. Now, why do you feel that pin Xers decided to make you their spokes model?

Speaker 3 (14m 5s): So they came to me, I believe they originally came to me on, I'm gonna say Twitter, but I'm not positive. Okay. And that's because I have my, you know, my message is don't judge, you can't, don't judge, don't judge people by the, you know, lifestyle relationship, lifestyle that they lead, whether they live a polyamory lifestyle, a swinger lifestyle, BDSM, kink. And then, and then if they work in the adult industry and all very different variations of being involved in, you know, the adult industry. And so I'm very much about, you know, not judging a book by its cover.

And I, you know, and I portray that in my articles and through the guests that I bring on my podcast to show that just because somebody's an adult performer doesn't mean they were sexually abused or they're drug addicts, and I've brought on performers to prove, you know, I just had, I just had Leanna Lovings on who's, you know, a double major in biology and neuroscience and, you know, grew up in a religious family. And she's been in only a year just to prove to people that you can't judge. And so that's what society is doing this with all the social media right now, and shadow banning anybody that's in the adult industry.

And I think it's disgusting and it's awful. And I think that's why they came to me.

Speaker 1 (15m 13s): Some of the so-called adult platforms are doing it too. Right.

Speaker 3 (15m 20s): Yeah. What they're doing is they're really making it, you know, because they're getting so much pressure from the MasterCard, you know, in the merchant class. So they, you know, they, I understand that they have to have precautions. I get that. Sure. But they're making it as impossible. They're just making you go through leaps and who, you know, just jump through hoops to get the, to get your content on their site. The worst one, honestly, I'll site is only fans and that's because of course doesn't even have anywhere in there for us to upload the IDs. So there's, so I don't understand what they want you to do.

They want you to like sit there and now email them separately. Okay. This is the video I just uploaded. This is the paperwork. This is the IDs. Seriously. Yeah. And what they've done is that there are producers and, and studios that have had content on there for, you know, eight years. And they wanted them to go back and locate all the different performers and have them sign the only fans model release. And they will not release the money to these studios unless they get those papers signed again by these models who have some, have retired passed away, whatever it may be.

So it's just, it's disgusting. It's absolutely. They make it some, my, my stuff's on there there's you can't find anything on my only fans that involves another person. It's just me. Sure.

Speaker 1 (16m 34s): Where do you see the entire fan site clip site industry going? Because it has, there have been a lot of changes lately. Obviously a lot of changes to only fans, but then the others have kind of had to follow. And again, yeah. And you, you talk about the pressure from, you know, the card companies. I mean, where do you, where do you see this all going?

Speaker 3 (17m 5s): So, you know, one thing I can say, and I, I really do believe in this. I do believe this is that no matter what society and media and anybody tries to do with the adult industry and make porn and illegal and knock us down here and knock us down there and you know, they're never gonna fucking win. I'm sorry, but they're not because sex sell and sex is everywhere. And whether or not people wanna admit that they indulge in it or watch it or are intrigued by it. Okay. It's there. And by making it not there. Okay. So by, you know, by trying, they're gonna, there's gonna end up being more people prostituting on the streets and there's gonna be more rapes and stuff like that.

Because if people can't go and fulfill their role, play in their fantasies on webcam and stuff like that, then how else are they? They gonna do it, right. They're gonna look at other measures. So the society, and then they need to freaking knock it off already. And if you're not hurting anybody. And the only thing that I dis that I, that I agree with a hundred percent is no porn should be free and accessible without somebody adding, uploading their own ID, proving that they too are over the age of 18.

Speaker 1 (18m 11s): So, so age verification.

Speaker 3 (18m 13s): Absolutely. But I mean, age verification where somebody just clicks and says, oh yeah, I'm 18. You know where they go? Yeah. That that's, I, I don't really believe in that my website has the same thing actually, but to access my content, you have to sign up. So you can't see anything for the fact like chatter BA that you can just go on there. My son he's 14 can go on there and just watch for free to me is disgusting. It's disgusting. Yeah. And so I agree with that. We need to fix that. And I don't know why we haven't made it the same way us as performers have to upload our ID and prove that we are over the age of 18 with a picture, the ID next to the face.

Why do the viewers not have to, they should have to as well,

Speaker 1 (18m 48s): Well, I, a hundred percent agree. I mean, I don't have children, you have children, you, so, so it's, it's more personal for you and putting that aside for a second, how much of the responsibility do you think lies with the parents?

Speaker 3 (19m 8s): Well, I think that you need to be, so I have a very, very open relationship with my children. And I think that it's very important to do that so that they know they can come to me and discuss with me masturbation, sex, condom, safe, sex, whatever. It may be STDs without sure. Fearing any kind of judgment. And what I notice, especially in my seminars is how many younger, you know, people come to my seminars and they're maybe they were Jehovah's witness. And their parents have told them that the, you know, they're not welcome at home anymore, or they just wanna embrace their sexuality.

And they've been told that masturbation and pleasure yourself is bad. It's a bad thing to do. Yeah. And so we've got, you know, so that, I think that lays on the parents. Okay, sure. Making your, these, these kids. I mean, I, I work for Dr. Susie's Institute and I'm a chat agent for her. And mostly what I do is men will call in and they wanna talk to somebody. Who's not gonna judge them about a kink or a fetish or something that's going on in their minds without judgment, because they can't, you know, I have a, there's a 21 year old that calls and he's got some major, you know, issues and it pisses me off.

Yeah. Cause that's his parents' fault. So that's where that lies. But as for the porn, you know, I, I know that my, my son watches it. I know he does, but it's easily, easily accessible. And I think under the age of 18, it should not be, you shouldn't be able to access it. But

Speaker 1 (20m 29s): No, I, I agree. How much, how much of, of all that do you think can be pointed at religion?

Speaker 3 (20m 36s): A lot, A lot, a lot, a lot. And I grew up Jewish. I grew up, you know, private school and everything. Yeah. But if people don't start to realize this, EV almost everybody that I counsel, like I counsel for, for the industry or for, you know, tell me that they came from a religious family where it was so shoved down their throat, you know, you will get married to one person. You will live a nog. And then what if people do, soon as they turn 18, they turn, you know, they, they code the complete opposite direction that they were forced to be in.

Yeah. So

Speaker 1 (21m 8s): Yeah. Going,

Speaker 3 (21m 9s): I believe,

Speaker 1 (21m 10s): Go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (21m 11s): I believe in, I was gonna say, I believe in being spiritual and I think it's good to have, you know, that, that I say religion, but I think it's more spirit. It's good to have, you know, that spiritual connection. Yes. But to, to make people think that sex is bad and masturbation is bad and you know, is, is causing major issues. We're going backwards is what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (21m 31s): Sure. Yeah. And the whole, you know, prosecution of sin in our country, it looks like the whole marijuana thing going in the right direction. Thank goodness hell. Here in Thailand, they're, they're even in the process of legalizing marijuana, which God knows nobody ever thought that would happen. Interesting for, for a drug where they used to put people in the slammer for. Right.

Speaker 3 (21m 55s): Exactly.

Speaker 1 (21m 55s): Isn't that crazy? Well for selling, they used to kill people for it here. They don't do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (21m 59s): So, you know, somebody had a point the other day, somebody said, can you believe I can get marijuana delivered to my house, but I can't get a pack of cigarettes. And I was like, that's a very interesting analogy. You know?

Speaker 1 (22m 9s): Well, cigarette cigarettes are another matter. We probably won't agree on, but anyway, oh

Speaker 3 (22m 13s): No, no. They're discussing an awful habit. Awful, awful, awful. Agreed.

Speaker 1 (22m 17s): Agreed. And you know, you also were talking about regulations and how they'll force people, you know, to do other things. I think fo the fo CTA law is probably the greatest example of how it's absolutely. Yeah. What it's done to the escort sites. And now there's more, now there's more street prostitution, prostitutes get murdered. I mean, it just doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (22m 48s): Yeah. I, I just dunno what they're thinking. I mean, we'd all know that people have, the prostitution has been around forever. Okay. And, you know, legalizing it with paying taxes would be the smartest way to do it. Sure. But, you know, instead, and then these sites that have been set up where they, you know, you can get reviews on the, on the, on the client, you can get reviews on the provider and, and you know, and at least there's these safety precautions that are in there. Whereas now that they're making that so difficult, well, girls are just gonna go walk the street again.

Speaker 1 (23m 18s): Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23m 18s): People do what they have to do,

Speaker 1 (23m 20s): Or they're gonna go on a site that somehow, cuz they're doing a whackamole with them. They're gonna go on a site and somehow meet up with somebody and maybe get murdered.

Speaker 3 (23m 30s): Right. Well we hope, you know, I just hope, you know, I always, if there's any providers that are ever listening and don't know how to run background checks, I encourage them to contact me for free. And I've got a variety of different ways to do so I used to work as a, as a private detective. And so I've got some insider information and so I run checks all the time for people.

Speaker 1 (23m 47s): Fantastic. Well, I hope people will take advantage of that. Now, in addition to your books, your documentary and Pinter, I understand you developed and talked a little bit about it last time, a C B D personal lubricant, how's that working out for you?

Speaker 3 (24m 4s): It's going good. You know, that, that was a definitely a new business venture for me to embark on. It's not my specialty. You know, I had to find out all these different, I, I didn't realize that CBD. So marketing CBD and making a CBD product is one marketing lube and a lubricant product is another. But when you put them together, it's considered a medical device. So I had no idea how hard insurance would be on it. And the only good thing is is that we, we extracted the THC for mine.

And even though under 0.03% is okay to have, I did that because a lot of my fan base or military and military will not even touch like a CBD bath bomb because they just worry that they'll still test for the TC. Right. Sure. You know? Sure. And so we just extracted it. So that's, so my loop's going good. You know, it was a, it was a two year process of trying to find something well, trying to put together a, a product that with all the things that I don't like about lubes, I don't like so they're sticky or that they have an awful smell, awful taste. And so, you know, that's what we were trying to nail.

And I think we did, we did nail it so

Speaker 1 (25m 11s): Fabulous. Now where can listeners purchase your products and follow your career?

Speaker 3 (25m 16s): So the easiest thing is I've now lodged a brand new website. And so everything is on there. So instead of needing to go to the hanky pinky for the podcast, and then going to Jules CBD lubricant for the loop, they now just go to Corland And on there they can access my coaching, my adult content, you know, they have a, there's a membership site for that. They can access my podcast, my blogs, my shop, my tour schedule everything. And so it's really made it a lot more accessible as it's an all in one platform it's taken, you know, it's trial and error of course, like everything, but it's definitely making things easier for my fan base.

Speaker 1 (25m 56s): Tell me the main reason you launched the website and how it's working out for you

Speaker 3 (26m 1s): Launched the website most, pretty much for what I said, because, you know, I was, I had all these different websites and platforms. I was Mon you know, I was taking care of my Juul CBD lubricant, but then I was on, I had Kajabi for the website and that was only coaching. You couldn't have any adult content over there. So then I was trying to put my adult content somewhere else and it's just, it was just too much to handle. And so, and then, and then the coaching I needed, you know, the coaching somewhere, the store, oh, the store. I couldn't have my store on Kajabi because you can't put a, a lubricant on there. So if I could put everything together into one, so it definitely was a lot of work putting together this

Speaker 1 (26m 37s): Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26m 38s): Putting together this website,

Speaker 1 (26m 40s): Talk about the, the, the process of putting a site that intricate together and a

Speaker 3 (26m 48s): Lot of fighting

Speaker 1 (26m 49s): How it went.

Speaker 3 (26m 51s): So I'm working with someone in Portugal, so we're on different, different time zones. Right. So that's the one issue is that, you know, at two o'clock in the morning when he's got questions, I'm ready for bed. And so there was a lot of Allnighters cause wait

Speaker 1 (27m 3s): A minute, wait a minute. You sleep.

Speaker 3 (27m 5s): I do sometimes, but wow. Not a lot with this website. Cause I was up all night last night. That's what I told you earlier. But yeah. So a lot, a lot of back and forth and, and then, you know, we would agree to put something up and then, and then it wouldn't work. So it's trial and error. So for example, people can go on there and they can automatically say, I'd like to, they buy a consultation with me for lifestyle, for example. Okay. Right. And then they can actually book their through the Cal, you know, through the calendar program, they can book. So, but what happens is yesterday at two, in the afternoon, I decide that I'm gonna go to the store and in comes a thing that books me for three o'clock consultation.

So oops, okay. That doesn't work. Right. So I had to contact the web guy and be like, okay, nevermind. That's not a good idea. We need to have it that they purchase. And then I contact them to schedule them in because yes, I'm not gonna sit home and wait. So

Speaker 1 (27m 53s): Yeah. Sometimes automated has its drawbacks.

Speaker 3 (27m 57s): Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (27m 59s): So what other challenges have you gone through and putting the site together? And the reason I ask is because so many people, when they put together websites, they don't realize that it isn't that easy.

Speaker 3 (28m 11s): It's not easy. And, and again, like I said, there's things that we have done on there and then they don't work and then we pull them, or, you know, in the beginning we were uploading every, all the content to an outside server called a digital ocean and then digital ocean, wasn't connecting with the WordPress. And so the videos weren't playing and, you know, and it was all these like issues. Right. But you know, I think we've nailed them out for the most part, trying to think. And then, but yeah, lots and lots and lots of challenges.

And we're still, we're still going through challenges for sure.

Speaker 1 (28m 43s): Yeah. They, they don't end when you launch the site because then always you, you always will come across things that need to be tweaked and fixed. It's an ongoing process and it never ends, unfortunately. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28m 57s): And then, you know, we've got, I've got like affiliate, I, I say affiliate programs, but you know, I've got for my podcast, I have companies that I do advertising for on the podcast. And then, you know, people can try out their swinger site for free. So now we needed somewhere for people to access that, to access the links. So we had to add a partner's page. And so people couldn't find it because it was in the dropdown menu. So, you know, it's all about, okay, well we're, you have to put yourself as though you're a three year old trying to navigate your way through a website. Yes. That makes sense.

So, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29m 29s): Oh it does. Because I say that and I say that in my broker tips on my, on this podcast, when I talk about looking at your own website and looking at it like a user, not as a developer, that's the last thing that anyone should ever do is go to a web developer and say, Hey, put together a website for me. This is what I want in it. No, you have to be so specific and say, I want this here, this here, this here and this year and

Speaker 3 (30m 0s): They're involved

Speaker 1 (30m 1s): And this is what I want it to do. And this, these are the capabilities that I want it to have. And in the process, they'll do something. You'll go, you know what, now it needs to do this. And what I always suggest to people is have friends who have no part in the industry, you know, just people, you know, go to the website and try it. Okay.

Speaker 3 (30m 28s): It's exactly, exactly that. I'll tell you. Here's a perfect example of that. I had a guy that contacted a client on, you know, one of my webcam clients on Skype and he was just contacting me saying, you know, I cannot figure this out. I can't figure out how to get back to the homepage. And I go, what do you mean you can't figure out to get back to the homepage? So we shared the screen and I swear it was only 45 minutes of him and I together. And I go, oh my God, I have no idea where the freaking homepage is. So finally I contact my web guy and he says, it's your logo in the corner? And I said, and how the hell is, anybody's supposed to know that he says, everybody knows that.

And I go, I couple shit on that. Cause I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (31m 3s): And that's a great example of a good example, insider knowing this. And I, I know normally that when you click on a logo, that's gonna take you to the homepage, but it's still a good idea to have the word home somewhere

Speaker 3 (31m 19s): To, because you have to imagine that whoever is looking at your site has no clue how to navigate through these things. And it's got to be, you know, click here to register, click here for the newsletter, click here for the blog click here for the podcast. If you don't say click or whatever, people can't figure it out. Right.

Speaker 1 (31m 35s): So, absolutely. Let's talk about your podcast, the hanky pinky podcast it's been going on for a while. How's it going? And who have been some of your favorite guests so far besides me? Of course.

Speaker 3 (31m 49s): Yes, of course. Right. It's going really well. I would say that's, it's definitely something I'm very much enjoying. I really, really do enjoy it. Let's see. I'm on, like, I think I've recorded 83 episodes now and

Speaker 1 (32m 2s): That's great. I got I'm up to I've actually, well, I've actually released 103, but I've got another dozen or so interviews in the can. So there you

Speaker 3 (32m 12s): Go. Yeah. I think that's what it is. I've released 83. I think that's where we are. Let's see. Most recent was Jenna star. So, you know, we talked about how, you know, she got discovered by, by Twitter, from BR, from, from brass ears. She was just a working as a cosmetologist, I guess. And then they discovered her then recently had Leanna Lovings just interviewed her yesterday or the day before. Absolute boots, sweetheart. That one is a doll favorite interviews. Hmm.

Okay. It's hard. I think my most like educational, if I wanna say that are things that really taught me a lot was when I did a whole segment on golden era porn. So Richard Chenko Eric Monty, let me think. Sharon Mitchell. Yeah. Rob Everett, you know, those were really, really neat to Sean Elliot, you know, to learn the, the history behind 42nd street and Plato's retreat and all these different things that I'd never even heard of.

Speaker 1 (33m 12s): Sure. Yeah. That's it's in any industry you need to know the history.

Speaker 3 (33m 17s): Absolutely. Absolutely. And I'm, I'm the girl that doesn't watch porn. So, but one thing about my, my podcast, which I really try to make known to people is it's not just people in the adult industry or just couples that are involved in the swinger lifestyle. Right. I try to bring in a variation of scientists and therapists or educators authors to, but anything that has to do with being sex positive. Sure, sure. And another real cool interview with my interview with Dr. Michael Perry, who is, he was a priest turned like instructional sex, sex, sex, instructional DVD.

He did all the directing, but he also got he's a doctor, you know, sex therapist. And interesting. That was interesting how he went from priest to that.

Speaker 1 (34m 0s): Interesting. Yeah. Maybe he knew more as a priest than, and then he let off. Now, are you still shooting, running your swingers club and working as a wedding planner

Speaker 3 (34m 11s): Still shooting? Yes. Just recently shot. I was in Chicago, so I did two since scenes in Chicago. Yes. I'm still running my swingers club. A lot of my venues closed because of COVID. And so it's been a, of course, little bit of a challenge to find new locations, but I have a brand new venue I just got in Los Angeles lined up for June 25th for my first event there. Okay. And the weddings, I still have my wedding business available on a like more word of mouth.

That's the most stressful worst. I love being a wedding planner, but I hate, I hate my brides. I can't stand. Especially their moms can't stand what a

Speaker 1 (34m 51s): Shock

Speaker 3 (34m 51s): And I, yeah, I just, and to me it's just, yeah, it's just, you know, it doesn't matter how hard I work or how much I go above and beyond. And, and like I have, I have amazing reviews. I won five start five years in a row, a couple stories, award winner on wedding wire, but it took one bride, one bride just a couple months ago to just put me over the edge. And I came home and I pulled my website. I said, I'm done. I'm absolutely done. One bride can do that to you. So

Speaker 1 (35m 17s): Yeah. Yeah. When they don't appreciate what you do, sometimes it's best to move on to the areas that are more fulfilling.

Speaker 3 (35m 25s): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35m 26s): So you talk a lot about being a lifestyle coach, so, and, and you, you gave me some examples, but what exactly is a lifestyle coach and you did tell, you did tell me how people can book a consultation, but let's, let's, let's break out something else here. Okay. Okay. Besides what is a lifestyle coach? How does that differ from a licensed counselor?

Speaker 3 (35m 53s): Okay. So that's the one thing is that, you know, I always make it very clear to people that I'm not a therapist. I'm not, you know, a psychiatrist I'm, you know, not medically, you know, I, no doctorate, no paperwork behind that. I did go and get certified as a master of sexologist. And I did that more because I really wanted to understand some of these fetishes and kinks as a webcam performer, custom video girl, working in a brothel where do these fetishes and Kings stem from, and you know, how can I help somebody work through those?

And so that's what I did that for. So a lifestyle coach, this is what I always tell people. I don't believe I don't care what doctorate I have. I don't believe that I could counsel or be a therapist or a psychiatrist to someone who is going through being sexually molested or sexual abuse because I haven't been there and I haven't walked in their shoes. And so I, I don't think that I have any right to tell them how to deal with this. Cause I haven't been there. And with lifestyle I've been in the, in the, in the lifestyle as a married woman, as a, you know, a, a couple as a single, as an owner of a club.

And I've really seen it a lot, seen a lot. I can't, I'll never say I've seen it all, you know? Right. But I've seen a lot. And so I, I feel more than qualified to guide people and help them navigate their way through it. So lifestyle coaches, like I said, in the beginning, it's somebody who will help you navigate your way through this journey either as a single or as a couple so that you don't make the mistakes that I made. I wish somebody had, I, I truly think that my husband and I would've still been married had somebody guided us. Yeah, I really do.


Speaker 1 (37m 28s): So it's so, so it's strictly for the swinger's lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (37m 31s): It's strictly for the Stringer's lifestyle. I don't, if you're yeah. So could I help a married couple? Maybe, you know, if there was, if they were having issues, for example, you know, a sex, a sexless marriage. Okay. Right. Could I help them? Yes. Cause I could probably give them ideas to incorporate role play and stuff like that to entice the relationship and bring the excitement to the bedroom again. Right. But ultimately I focus on the lifestyle community. Okay.

Speaker 1 (37m 55s): Okay. So you talked about the shows you're gonna be attending. How can people meet you at them?

Speaker 3 (38m 3s): So the easiest thing to see how nice this is, you just go to my website, which is the coral and And then right there, you click on tours and it says, where can you find me? And it's got everything from my swinger events, meet and greets classes that I'll be teaching and then the different seminars where they can find me. So if this releases in a couple months, that would probably be four months. Would that be, I don't know, like July I'm in Miami, July, August, December is Washington DC.

Where's New Jersey. October's in New Jersey. Okay. So great.

Speaker 1 (38m 39s): So in addition to piners, are you working with any other companies as a spokesperson or lead ambassador?

Speaker 3 (38m 46s): I'm working with a company out of where are they out? I don't know where they're, they're there in Europe. Okay. But that hasn't been released yet what we're doing. So it's kind of on the download. It'll probably be out by the time this comes out. So I can probably say something. We are, we're putting together a call it a PR firm if you want to. Okay. But it's an all in one. So it's, it's it, it's somebody like me, an adult performer that wants once, you know, once, you know, needs, needs help with press releases once, you know, logo done branding.

So it's over, it's an all in one branding business resource company.

Speaker 1 (39m 26s): Interesting.

Speaker 3 (39m 27s): Yes. And not just for the adult industry, Mike, one of our clients right now is a retired football player and we've got another client that is a radio podcaster. And so, you know, people come to us and they wanna rebrand and we've got my connections and my expertise in one field and then the rest of my team and their connections and you know, like the technical side of stuff. And we're working on that together. So

Speaker 1 (39m 51s): Another business Corlon my God.

Speaker 3 (39m 54s): I know. I know. I know. I know. And that's the whole thing that's going crazy. That's why I'm so crazy. I need help.

Speaker 1 (40m 0s): Ah, yeah. I think you probably should talk to a counselor about, you know, some, some people are shopaholics. I think you're an entrepreneur aholic. Maybe

Speaker 3 (40m 9s): I know, but you know, what it was is that it's that I really felt like we were missing that because, you know, I can find somebody to do my PR, but then if I want my website done, they couldn't do my website. And then if I wanted to have somebody video my coaching webinars and help me put those on there, they couldn't do that. And so I found a company and we formed one that could do it all in one. Yeah. Through one stop shop.

Speaker 1 (40m 31s): So what's next for you? I'm almost afraid to ask.

Speaker 3 (40m 34s): I'm afraid to ask. Yeah. Next, let's see, getting my documentary done. I have. I'm hoping by what did I give him? I said to, I said, I said New Jersey October by October. I want that released. My second book is just about done. I want that released by October. Then I'll start my third book. And then really just getting this PR company off the ground, starting to get, you know, let, let, let people know that we're out there it's affordable. And I just wanna help everybody, you know, reach their, the best of their ability and their career, whatever it may be without anybody telling them that they can't do it so

Speaker 1 (41m 10s): Well. You're certainly a good example of that. Corland I'd like to thank you for being our guest again today on adult site, broker talk and looking forward to part four.

Speaker 3 (41m 21s): Thank you again very much for having me, darling,

Speaker 1 (41m 23s): Always nice to have you. My broker tip today is part five of what to do to make your site more valuable for when you decide to sell it later, when you decide to sell your site, make sure you have the following information available for potential buyers, detailed information about your company, your website, and any other aspect of your operation that the potential buyer may wanna find out about. This should include for a pay site, a detailed inventory of your content, number of images and number of videos.

How much of it is exclusive and how much is non exclusive financial information for at least the last three years. If your company is that old, this should include sales reports, profit and loss statements and billing reports get all the information organized in legible format that a good broker can use to sell your property. If you decide to sell it yourself, organize a list of potential buyers and start the process of contacting them. Be realistic about what your company is worth in today's market.

The kiss of death is overpricing your property. Is there anything that a potential buyer needs to know such as? Are you being sued? Do you have any substantial debts or anything else? Don't let these things be a surprise to the potential buyer. They'll either find out before the sale and not buy or they'll find out after the sale. And you'll have another lawsuit on your hands, disclose everything. We'll talk about this subject more next week and next week we'll be speaking with Kole Snodgrass of full swap radio.

And that's it for this week's Adult Site Broker Talk. I'd once again like to thank my guest Coralyn Jewel. Talk to you again next week on Adult Site Broker Talk. I'm Bruce Friedman.

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